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One more question tonight and I'll call it a wrap
Do you ask FOR approval
or FOR someone's approval or you can leave out FROM-always or it depends on...
The issue is the preposition. Any useful examples are welcome
Thanks
M&L
You ask for approval.

Examples:
I wanted to go on vacation, but I needed to ask for approval from my supervisor.
I need your approval to get this new computer program we need.
My re-election was up for approval from the board.
I'm asking for your approval.

Uusually it's better to specify whose approval you are seeking--but if you don't necessarily know you can leave out the possessive.

And yes, you use the preposition "for".
So you always ask FOR approval, with or without the person in question whether he/she is addressed by the name, title or there's just a possessive adjective.
I was sort of worried that if it was just APPROVAL it might be without FOR while with the person mentioned it was without it. I Googled up a few examples without for, although you ASKFOR something, and I thought it might be something idiomatic. Thanks
I was a bit afraid that using some specific structure, it could be similar to:
Can I ask you a favor?
because there's NO FOR either. BTW, idioms are sweet, but really tough.
The last thing:
Would it be OK to avoid saying:
If we decided to do X, we would, of course, ask for your approval.{/B]
to say something like
Of course, we realize that to do X, we would need your approval.
or
Of course, we realize that if we decided to do X, your approval would be necessary.
or
It would be necessary for us to have your approval to do X.
or
Of course, it would be necessary for you to approve our doing X.
Just trying to come up with as many different structures as possible. Thanks for your help
M&L
The last thing:
Would it be OK to avoid saying (why would you avoid these?)


If we decided to do X, we would, of course, ask for your approval. RIGHT

Of course, we realize that to do X, we would need your approval. RIGHT

Of course, we realize that if we decided to do X, your approval would be necessary.RIGHT

It would be necessary for us to have your approval to do X. RIGHT

Of course, it would be necessary for you to approve our doing X. I would avoid this construction, because it's awkward.

The others are fine.
Thank you Bookworm123, you've been a great help.
I do apologize for not being able to quit, but I'm just being curious. Are there any more common exceptions when you ask FOR something not using FOR although it "SHOULD be there? The more I know, the better I feel 👁 Big Grin :D
Why would I try to avoid these (or this)? Anytime I'm not sure that the structure I'm going to use is correct, I try to say the same thing in a different way and the more options I have, the better for me. It was NOT about avoiding something because it was RUDE or anything like that, but being a non-native speaker of the language, I've been trying to find an easy and comprehensible "way out" THANKS
I actually don't quite understand your question.

Are you asking if I can think of an example where "for" isn't used with the verb ask?

If so,

If I were you, I would have asked her to give me the house.

This is an alternate to

If I were you, I would have asked her for the house.

On the spot it's harder to come up with exceptions. It would be easier for me to check a sentence you've written to see if it's correct or not.

And, you're welcome.
Thank you and I know that it IS difficult. I had a chance to teach a few of my American friends Czech and some of their questions were really hard to answer.
I know that TO ASK SOMEBODY TO DO SOMETHING is fine. What I meant was a structure involving ASK+NOUN without FOR which seems to be quite unusual and idiomatic. If you can think of something, I would really appreciate it. Anything but FAVOR 👁 Smile :)
Thanks a lot
Let me think...


May I ask you a question? See there's no for. Right now, I can't think of any others.

Before you said "can I ask you a favor?", however the word "may" is better than "can". This is because "can" denotes ability while "may" makes it clear that you are asking somebody to do something.


For example,

Can I go to the bathroom?

literally means

Do I have the ability to go to the bathroom? I HOPE YOU DO! 👁 Smile :-)


While "May I go to the bathroom?" means "Am I allowed to go to the bathroom?"

I hope that made sense.
Thanks Bookworm123,
That's what I needed to know-ASK A QUESTION- I sort of thought of that one, too although in this sense it's got more to do with inquiring about something than requiring something.
As for CAN vs. MAY, I guess I can see your point-MAY is always a polite request, asking FOR permission, while CAN is either the same thing, but less formal, or it can refer to ABILITY meaning as you wrote, "AM I ABLE TO ..."
Thank you 👁 Smile :)

M&L
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