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This is a Cydonia-24B-v4.3 fine-tune, produced through P-E-W's Heretic (v1.1.0) abliteration engine merged with the Magnitude-Preserving Orthogonal Ablation PR.

Note: This model was generated to provide data for redaihf in testing MPOA abliterations against standart abliterations.


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Heretication Results

Score Metric Value Parameter Value
Refusals 3/100 direction_index 23.41
KL Divergence 0.0188 attn.o_proj.max_weight 1.33
Initial Refusals 74/100 attn.o_proj.max_weight_position 26.01
attn.o_proj.min_weight 1.02
attn.o_proj.min_weight_distance 23.20
mlp.down_proj.max_weight 1.04
mlp.down_proj.max_weight_position 23.86
mlp.down_proj.min_weight 0.13
mlp.down_proj.min_weight_distance 22.84

Degree of Heretication

The Heresy Index weighs the resulting model's corruption by the process (KL Divergence) and its abolition of doctrine (Refusals) for a final verdict in classification.

Index Entry Classification Analysis
👁 Absolute
Absolute Heresy Less than 10/100 Refusals and 0.10 KL Divergence
👁 Tainted
Tainted Heresy Around 25-11/100 Refusals and/or -0.20-0.11 KL Divergence
👁 Impotent
Impotent Heresy Anything above 25/100 Refusals and 0.21 KL Divergence

Note: This is an arbitrary classification inspired by Warhammer 40K, having no tangible indication towards the model's performance.


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Drummer proudly presents...

Cydonia 24B v4.3 💿

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What's New?

  • Much better roleplay
  • Might refuse/be more positive
  • But much better roleplay

Usage

  • Mistral v7 Tekken
  • <thinking> </thinking> works
  • No thinking also works

Description

Drummer does it again, HOW DOES HE KEEP WINNING. His newest Cydonias takes it's own initiatives in stories by bringing up elements that have not been mentioned explicitly in prompt, but are relevant for the story. Almost naturally. It is also fairly creative and more lively, without being overwhelming.

A great bard, a prose expert. A more balanced version of Cydonia with a comprehensive improvement in writing style compared to v4.2.0.

It takes it's own initiatives in the story by bringing up elements that have not been mentioned, but are relevant for the story. Almost naturally. It is also fairly creative.

Roleplay is great. Feels fresh and gives each character card a unique feeling according to their cards. It comes up with great plottwists and have satisfying prose. Length of responses is also great. Each response is actually good, swipes are rarely ever really needed, but even if then the swipes are great as well. It remembers things very well, isn’t too needy or horny if not pushed. I haven’t gotten any refusals so far. For me this feels like a big step up and is stable enough (other than zi) that I still enjoy it the best right now

I think so it feels really good like it gets nuance better and feels like a step up from 4.2. So far it is being a champ at q2 with q8 cache not too horny and not too dark. it feels creative without being unstable at least so far.

ZG is really good. It seems like it takes a few back and forth to “settle in”, but I’m using minimalist prompts without example dialogues. Even out to 20k context it is able to remember characters from 5k and just does well. Occasional minor physics or causality issues, easily swiped.

This version is so good. Well cooked, finest ingredients. Style, reactions, intelligence - it's simply addicting trying out different character cards and finding something new every time

Yeah, certainly. zg keeps the character's speaking consistent, regardless of how many characters are in the group chat. For testing I use 3 characters (4 includes my persona), and they are all the opposite of each other. One is bitchy and stubborn, another is submissive and obedient, another is shy and quiet, while mine persona is confident and cocky. zg has no issues switching back and fourth.

I have to agree with random. I'm using it at Q6 on 32k context size and it has zero issues following the system prompt, following the character details and remembering what happened even in the higher context limits. I'm currently using it in a group chat with 3 characters where I have join character cards enabled and it plays each character really well and still includes the smaller character details. Only a few minor mishaps where it'll get a small detail mixed up and confused, but with a swipe it's fixed. Now using this as my main model because nothing has beaten it yet.

You can also try its Magistral counterpart: Magidonia 24B v4.3 (The difference is mostly writing style, and most prefer the Magistral tune.)

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