What People Are Saying About GNOME [Part 5]
4201: Just keep working on it. Gnome is Brilliant
As Above. Many people just don't like change, but before long they realize they have been left behind. They then embrace the change and eventually become the project's greatest advocates !
4202: I was satisfied with Gnome 2.x but as an Ubuntu user I switched to Unity. Unity's only failing in my view is the limited configuration of appearance. With Gnome 2.x I rarely went to the CLI and didn't have to edit configuration files. The latest Unity has me editing configuration file to achieve desired appearance, like colors. I'm very happy with Gnome applications like Gedit and Nautilus. I more readily give up the Gnome Shell than I would the Gnome applications.
Be cautious about over UI simplification and compromising desktop system support.
4203: 1 - In Gnome 3, hide application title in maximized state and show close button in top title/activity bar (but not the menu bar like unity).
2 - when activing activity screen, gnome show two tabs (windows and applications) : add other tabs like
- links to favorite directories (Documents, Images, Music, Download ...)
- recently opened files, visited URIs, or conversations
3 - when having two windows in one desktop, docked to desktop border (one at left, the other at right), having the possibility to change the size of the two windows simultaneously by dragging the common border at center.
Good work ! Thanks very much.
4204: -Drop gnome-shell, or at least make it available for the user without being pushed as a default
-Out of the box window tiling (genre Bluetile/pytyle)
-Better support for multi-head setups.
4205: don't make my desktop look and work like a tablet
4206: More configurability
More configurability
MORE configurability
This applies to GNOME 3.2:
The top bar isn't configurable in any way. I beg you to consider these features:
* Extension icon reordering / hiding / grouping (drawer-like, maybe).
* Autohide (gaining vertical space in mobile, starved platforms).
* Something akin to the Unity menu (I'm not too fond of it, but for the vertical space improvement it delivers it's the only Unity feature that makes it clearly superior to GNOME 3.x)
More room for improvement:
* Indicators in favorite app bar icons, Ã la iPhone (Unity does this, also).
* Better Thunderbird integration (calendar, mail notifications). Not everybody use Evolution, you know.
* Some way to configure Activities launcher.
* A standard mechanism for widget integration, either at the desktop or in the Activities launcher.
* More polish: there are non-resizeable windows do not allow for all content to display properly (gnome-tweak-tool in Spanish, hint, hint).
* More speed: application search in Activities launcher could be faster (i.e.: I have a quad-core i7 processor, 6 GB RAM and it still freezes for a second the first time I invoke it and punch some keys).
4207: More options in settings for configuration, like changing focus follows mouse, right clicking behavior, panel customization, etc. Restore the level of support for multiple monitors of gnome 2.0, and similar utilities. Change the desktop from a Hasbo or Tonka play school toy, aping MAC Os, iPod iPad refuse, or Windows filth, or andriod or whatever buzzword or design garbage.
Solve small problems, do them well, Unix philosophy on the desktop. Don't oversimplify things, that is worse in some ways the complexity, you at least aren't straitjacketed with the latter. Don't invent problems to solve.
4208: Program window stacking like in Windows 7
4209: - Avoid moving to Gnome 3 !
4210: Nothing, it's just perfect
Gnome3 doesn't work for me, because I use multiple monitors as 'Seperate X screen'. (they have different resulutions) For some reason, I can only use my main monitor, when I start Gnome3. The other monitors give a white screen and are complety useless.
I'm not sure if this is caused by a bug in Gnome3, but I would really like to see this fixed ;)
4211: (1) Put the icons back in the menus by default.
(2) Document what some of the items such as "Metacity" in the "Other" menu Category are.
(3) create a better default theme.
Cut the arrogance
4212: Better configurability
4213: I would like gnome-shell to treat both of my monitors in the same way, rather than having one screen "fixed."
Also, I would like the panel to be on both of my screens, rather than just one.
For three, I guess, gnome should steal the full screen app idea from OS X Lion, where one workspace is purely dedicated to a single, full-screen app.
4214: 1. Bring me back GNOME 2
2. Bring me back GNOME 2
3. Bring me back GNOME 2
GNOME 3 is, at its current state, a really big mistake IMO.
4215: For me. Gnome 2 is all I require. I do not need fancy icons, touch screens and similar, which seems to be the way things are going unfortunately
4216: Better control panels
4217: 1. default shutdown menu available (hibernate, standby, shutdown, etc.)
2. better support for themes and skins
3. smaller title bars on windows (I needed a 3rd one and this is what I came up with..)
GNOME 3 is the best window manager I've ever seen. Keep up the good work! As much of a disappointment I found Unity, GNOME 3 is great.
4218: Thank you, your efforts make computing effortless.
4219: Less application integration.
More light weight.
I consider myself a reasonable multi-tasker. As such, I hardly ever see my desktop since there are windows in front of it. All menus, icons, options etc should be on the top or else it creates extra effort going back to my desktop to access them.
4220: Better integration in Debian: I currently have a mix of 2.30, 2.32, 3.0 and 3.2...
Continue improving Gnome3 to definitely discourage people of finishing (starting?) Unity.
4221: I want to be able to put application indicators (ex. Gnote, Linphone) somewhere I can quickly access them. This used to be easy in Gnome 2 and thatÅ› the reason my main computer is still using it.
4222: Go back to drop down menus and get rid of the picture icons. I know how to read I don't need pictures.
4223: SCREEN SAVER SETTINGS
OTR IN TELEPATHY SOMETIME LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE
EVOLUTION OR SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY WORKS but thanks for at last properly supporting something that isn't evolution
(Yes I was shouting. Can you hear me yet?)
Thanks.
Thanks VERY much
Gnome 3 is great, although it takes too long to initialise the application list when I start typing which application to run.
4224: Make it easier to customize. Have more themes. More tiling options.
Keep up the good work. I love how the virtual desktops work. Unique is a good thing.
4225: Ditch Gnome3/GnomeShell and go back to the Gnome2 DE and just focus on building up the related apps and make as much of it as modular as possible. I should only have to have the base Nautilus desktop, I don't want to use Empathy, Evolution, Gwibber etc. Now Gnome isn't the only one that has that problem, since the only good OSS is K3B ad it forces me to download hundreds of Mb of the KDE desktop on most distros just to install it even though I think its the only QT app I use.
Listen to your users, you shouldn't be reinventing the wheel every few years just to justify your existence, you aren't a for profit company that has run out of ideas on how to charges for a new version, you are a no profit F/OSS organization. If you want to do something like thisyou should start a side project and promote that when it starts to stabilize while keeping your old project going strong till the new project has surpassed it.
4226: I'm using Unity not plain Gnome3, so don't know if this is really a Gnome issue -but i really hate that menu-at-top feature. It makes focus-follow-mouse impossible to use. Keys+mouse buttons for resizing windows aren't what I'm used to, and is hard to change. Would like different background images or colors on different workspaces.
Forget about trying to imitate Apple or the smartphone GUIs for desktop systems. Keep improving Gnome2 and optimized it for desktop usage.
4227: Keep working on Gnome 3. It isn't quite there yet, but I see where you are going and I think I'd like to check it out when you get there.
4228: More Default Customization Abilities
Great job!
4229: 1) More stable GUI experience, icons and menu entries at the place where you think it should be at (in all programs).
2) More visual attractive UI graphics.
3) Better documentation on programs-
4230: I hate gnome 3, all i can say
if you want your old user base go back to gnome 2, if you carry on with gnome 3 you will end up with a much smaller one because of how nonfunctional gnome 3 is.
4231: 1) Get the taskbar back, clicking several times to get to the programs running is idiotic, especially for a desktop UI
2) Have better and easier ways to configure/add features/extensions (perhaps an "advanced" system config option), sort of like in gnome2.
3) Split apart the tablet UI version and the desktop version. Trying to combine them, ala windows 8, is unnecessary
nothing wrong with trying out new ways to use UIs and the like, but I don't see why there is a need to close them down and make it harder to EASILY config settings. What's wrong with having a graphical way to adjust more settings? gnome2 has been quite effective in the way one works, easy to manage current tasks through multiple desktops while having the relevant information there in front of you, even with limited resolutions.
I'm not saying go back to the old way, but make it possible to readjust and have some of the old features mixed in with the new! Cheers!
4232: The API
The vfs
The daemons
4233: 1. Reduce resource consumption.
2. Ability to resemble GNOME 2.x
3. Hide extra features that most users want, which is accessible for advanced users.
Keep working on it, it seems like a nice vision, but will require more versions to be polished. Take into consideration critiques from users and developers.
4234: 1. make Gnome 3 do what Gnome 2 was able to do
please work on Gnome 3 so it would have a completed features set, and make it customizable.
4235: only need one, change it back to 2
sorry guys, you missed the point. I don't want to fight the desktop, I want to work.
4236: - availability of a complete gnome 3.0/3.2 featureset for my distro of choice (debian sid). I think I mostly miss the shell-extensions
- alt-tab works for each window instead of for each application (though I understand there's a shell-extension for this, so see point 1).
- I guess gnome 3.0 fell under a 'release early, release often' strategy. That's a good thing, but I had expected more at launch. Maybe sticking a 'beta' tag in front of it, or a different numbering would have helped managing my expectations.
Keep innovating. I like the idea of trying new things and seeing what works, which I think is what gnome 3 is doing. Do keep in mind though that while it's fine to push a default setup that works well together, a lot of linux users will expect their DE to be customizable.
4237: more dot-rc configuration
4238: Add support for window tiling to the window manager, not so it is default, just so one has the option to toggle it on and off. I've really been wanting this.
Make the application launcher less intrusive.
Make the environment more customizable. For example, in KDE someone can customize almost anything they want, even the window behavior of specific applications, but they never even have to see that if they don't want to (the option only comes up if you alt+F3.)
4239: Gnome 2 cleanup.
More exposure of configuration options, moving to the preferences menu such things as epiphany's "Always show tabs bar" as only one simple example.
When you are on a good thing, stick to it.
4240: See comments
Improve on 2.x branch, gnome shell is going to be uprooted by Unity.
We would have had 3 flavors:
Unity for netbooks, pads (play)
KDE etc. for windows like tasking (work)
Gnome for a MacOS like UI (casual)
But by competing with Unity you well be improving both as competitors often kipe ideas from each other and the next wave of computing does seem to be in handhelds, remember that your market will still use their desktops and will expect more of the same instead of trying to rack our brains conforming to new concepts for hardware we don't use.
4241: improved stability
4242: Better network share support.
More focus on the classic paradigm.
Don't turn us all away to use XFCE. Gnome 2 does not migrate well for me to Gnome 3.
4243: More options in the GNOME 3 system settings - change font rendering, themes etc.
That's it really. I'm loving Gnome Shell otherwise.
With a bit of getting used to (as it's a whole different way of working) Gnome Shell is a very pleasant experience. I'm sure most of the people complaining have just been so conditioned to one way of doing things over many many years of not so much change, that they can't handle the idea that there may be more than one way of designing a desktop environment. I'm sure these attitudes will change. Thanks for having the courage to break away from tradition.
4244: - Change registry based configuration to clear text configs.
- Change default Alt+Middle mouse button window resize to more commonly used Alt+Right mouse button.
- Don't restrict sane configurability.
4245: I want wobbly windows
4246: Stop dumbing it down. I'm not at the switching point yet since this desktop is what comes out of the box on Debian, but if it gets any more lowest-common-denominator I still have my old fluxbox config.
4247: support drag and drop files whilst alt-tab'ing
4248: * Make the [application] menu in shell useful (currently there's just "Quit [application]")
* Improve experience of Activities overview for the case of having many windows
* Give users the option to turn off the PC via a menu
Overall, I like the Shell, but its window management solution still seems like a beta. System integration of the Shell could also be better (at least parts of it should resemble the current Gnome theme – especially fonts).
Also, Gnome Do is still quite a bit more versatile than the Shell (yet less stable)... oh, and speaking of stable: will there be a stable version of Rhythmbox some time?
Oh, yeah: kudos for removing screen savers. You're probably the first to have removed them, despite them having been useless for years. I wouldn't have noticed, I suppose, if it hadn't been for some enraged internet forum entry.
4249: reduce memory waste substantially
focus on function and not on "glamour"
don't try to imitate m$oft, they are not a good example to follow
4250: virtual desktop handling and alt-tab
that activate extensions via browser thing, ditch it!
developer attitude (the user wants... you don't tell no one)!
NEVER tell people what you have determined they should like when they tell you they don't.
4251: Keep it simple, make eye candy optional
Make it work, and easy to disable non-desirable stuff
Make a simple gnome package that just works and only moves very slowly, and implement other configurations as configuration packages that can be isntalled
4252: Need a menu/launcher
Need a task bar that shows running
Needs to be less graphically demanding
Listen to your users about what they want
4253: - Make gnome highly customizable. Gnome 2 was good, Gnome 3 not so good.
- Alot of Gnome options are available but hidden from the user. User has to go through the config editor to enable or disable features. Make them visible pls.
- Gnome is great, though its becoming abit laggy at some times. Add a feature when newly installed OSes that shows options and features that can be removed by the user. Currently the only way to do this is to remove the packages manually (Not everyone needs Bluetooth, remote desktop, etc).
4254: 1. Make it easier to resize windows
2. More customization options
3. Add essential features missing from many Gnome apps
There's a team?
4255: 1)Free-form resizing of icons and such on panels (or the Dock in Unity, haven't used it), not just on the desktop icons.
Wow, that's it...I really can't think of anything else to change in GNOME 2.x. Again, I haven't tried Unity very much, I'm a bit stodgy =)
4256: In gnome 2 the default mode for nautilus would be "Browser mode"
The defaults in Gnome 3 are bad, shutdown etc buttons missing etc etc
4257: make it faster
make it lighter
fix the compiz (or other graphics plugin) bugs
I suggest you LEAD instead of FOLLOW
4258: even better keyboard navigation, esp in evolution
smaller memory footprint
easier upgrade path to GNOME 3.0 for those of us who use it at work
Thanks for all!
4259: The bottom right docked icons show up whenever I move my mouse pointer to click on the down arrow to scroll the webpage and the status bar always has a habit of getting in the way. A choice on where to place those, perhaps? Like on the left-bottom side, rather than the right.
Sound applet integration with Banshee.
No #3 to think of.
Keep up the awesome work, gentlemen and ladies. I really like where GNOME 3 is headed.
4260: I would like to disable suspend-on-lid-close, but not by hacking gsettings. To me it's an important commonly used option. There is nothing other of importance regarding power management I can think of.
I would like to see cooperation regarding app-indicator ala Ubuntu. It's a brilliant idea, and who ever's fault it is that collaboration has failed, the GNOME community should take action.
That's all I can think of right now. I use Unity on top of GNOME 3.2 in Ubuntu so I'm not affected by any of these issues, but I think collaboration would benefit both sides.
Keep up the good work! I have many times considered trying to find some way of contributing to GNOME (I'm a developer) and hopefully I some day will have my priorities right ;)
4261: Stability of evolution
Speed of evolution
Memory use of evolution
Although I'm still on GNOME 2 on my main machine, I've played quite a bit with GNOME 3. I mostly like what I see with GNOME shell.
Language tools for input (spell checking, grammar checking, etc.) is absent, and a big shortcoming, in my opinion.
I find the new switch widget very confusing.
I subscribe to the idea of good defaults and limiting options, but currently things are obviously way beyond where many of the current user base expects it in terms of choice. Example: With GNOME shell 3.0 dual booting is too hard unless you know about the Alt trick. In my opinion a completely realistic use case, completely undiscoverable, or too hard (log out and reboot from GDM).
4262: Stop Dumbing down Gnome. You are only alienating your existing user base. People who can't be bothered to figure out how to use gnome won't stay, so in the end you won't have any users at all.
Also, what happened to UI Guidelines...did you just throw them out when you started working on Gnome3?
And most importantly, almost all the actual work that gets done is still done on a regular monitor with a regular keyboard/mouse.
Touchscreens are coming, sure, but they will not replace the desktop/workspace any time soon (or at all).
4263: everything is okey except gnome 3/unity
Hate unity/gnome 3/gnome fall back !
continue gnome 2 next to unity/gnome3 ...
4264: GNOME 3 is better than GNOME 2, much better.
4265: Revert top GNOME 2 please...
GNOME 3 is a complete crap.
4266: I would just leave it at 2.23. Remove most of the bugs and polish up the code.
Please, I am quite begging you, if you wish to develop a new environment that is easier to use do it so, but do not destroy your legacy. Call it 'Garden' for instance, an addon to traditional gnome environment. When I saw Gnome 3, I was terrified, no, no firstly I was terrified of the new 2.30 notification system, I found it frustrating and idiotic facebook clone! To be truthful now I am afraid to update my system... We want the old simple and useful Gnome, we want it badly, it did the job for us for many many years. Just listen to Torvalds if you don't want to listen to me... Maybe I am not entitled to say these things above because I never contributed, but my opinion is that 2.23 was fine as it was. Polish the backend, leave the frontend alone, it is FINE!
4267: Much more intuitive window minimizing/organizing is needed. Better integration with GTK 2+ and QT. Faster response times and better performance overall.
Lets try to expand the tools available to the user. KDE 4 accomplished this very well by having a GUI tool for everything. Customization could also be improved, again much like KDE 4. Gnome 3 is a bit resource hungry, lets slim it down a bit. Gnome 3 feels a bit redundant sometimes.
4268: Drop GNOME 3. The fallback mode is OK. It just doesn't cut it.
4269: 1) provide an old school option without all the bloaty frilly stuff
2) kill that side bar thing
4270: Add a hibernate button
Make the power manager work
Easier customization
I understand that having the default setup be simple, consistent, and easy to use, but I wish the Gnome team would leave features that they consider "obscure" as tick-boxes in a control panel somewhere. I mean, I have to install gnome-tweak-tool just to change the damn theme! Is that really such an obscure feature that you thought it didn't need to have an applet in the settings panel? And, what were you thinking with the default theme? Title bars and folder breadcrumb bars take up tons of space for no reason, yet the window borders are 1px so it is near impossible to grab them using a touchpad.
4271: 3.x shell, 2.x to only one panel (awn?), less default apps (Email,...)
Please give us back the old 2.x interface.
4272: 1..More options
2. Multiple path to do things (Less mouse requirements)
3. responsiveness.
Access to applications/activities is sluggish... The shell is a good idea but need to be much more responsive.
Less requirements to use the mouse, in that regard Unity is doing much better.
The panel is a good idea should make the things understandable and logical and force to handle one option a time ... but too few options ... The same aproach is by KDE but with tones of options and well organised ... so please make them accessible(understandable for regular users) and available(for power users).
Serve power users does not execlude regular users and its bijective.
You are here for people so listen to them and stop intellectual onanism start to have a bit of humility. We don't ask to mimic others just to coperate with them (kde,gtk theming compatibility ...)
4273: Stop removing features.
I want my appearance options back.
I hate the gnome shell
Polish and bring back 2.x features.
4274: 1) Bring back applets for the top label. Right now it's just wasted space
2) Options to have dock always-on/only-on-mouseover/only-in-dash
3) Keyboard shortcut to bring up bottom status bar (for an adjustable amount of time). OR even better: bring up last/history of notifications (i.e. for when I'm too slow to get my mouse over the pidgin notifier)
Ignore the haters, rock on!
4275: Make evolution's interface work better on small screens.
Add onscreen keyboard and handwriting recognition.
Fix vpnc issues in the networkmanager.
4276: consistent and complete keyboard shortcuts
why does gnome 3 suck so hard?
it wasn't broken so why "fix" it?
4277: You did a great job in bringing out each GNOME release. Thank you all!
4278: Add mousewheel tab scrolling,
Add Power Off option in user menu,
Improve message tray.
4279: make it way faster
make it look more compact
make it look consistent
love gnome, hate ubuntu for switching to something else
4280: 1. More customisable 'applications' overview screen. I'd like to group applications on it, similar to how the search output looks. So e.g. 'office' apps on one line, 'social media' apps on another, with frames or space separating groups.
2. A single unified utility to edit settings available through the menu.
3. Ability to change themes easily
4281: Better integration with calendar/mail applications.
Make the top bar like in Gnome 2, now it does not support my way of doing things.
4282: Re-add all the settings and configuration that has been removed since gnome 2
Stop fixing what isn't broken
4283: Listen to the users and don't just decide what they should want and how they should do things.
4284: stuff locked in the taskbars should be locked no matter what. I run lots of linux distros in virtual environments and they don't handle it well at all. Even using ubuntutweak to lock the taskbars (I think via gconf) they still move in vm's
more context menu options
consistent context menu options
Keep up the good work
4285: By default F1 leads to very slow loading of help. Help should open very quickly but for that maybe take a little longer when the user searches for something.
4286: 1. Hand customization back to the end-user.
2. Get rid of the binary configuration and back to text files.
3. Before you commit your resources to completely revamping the way end-users desktops operate -- first ask them if they want it broken.
Turn back.
4287: 1-power consumption
2-memory consumption
3-"start button" (between CTRL and ALT) use
Some of the apps are only meant to be the default way which is a shame
For example: the date, shutdown can only be horizontal, when the bar is moved on the side it bugs
4288: I'm a gnome user for quite some time. I was disapointed with the menu, so I switch to KDE for a couple of months, but I couldn't stand the "Plasmas", so I switched back to gnome on Mint, which has a nice desktop windows-like menu panel.
I find this kind of menu easier for average users to use when they come from windows (and let be honnest, most of ppl do use windows).
Since I've tried linux mint with gnome, I have installed it on 10 computers belonging to non-tech-savvy ppl that adopted it and do not use Windows anymore !
The only suggestion would be to add a fast, real-time and powerfull search function like Nepomuk in KDE. (maybe it exists with Gnome3, but I haven't tried it yet :(
4289: - provide sane standalone env without WM (fvwm + gnome)
- never put something in /usr/libexec which (hamster applet f.e.) can be started standalone as well
- do away with the registry (I don't even know how it's called in gnome)
linus was right
4290: Better themes, fallback mode won't be "Fallback mode" yet classic desktop, panel looks just wrong - better theme integration for panel, saner defaults, mutter instead of metacity in fallback mode, nautilus address history for god's sake!
See 22. Also, dig a new well, don't shit on the old one. Classic desktop is what power users use. You don't have to make everything "mobile friendly".
4291: everything but gnome-panel, which needs to be rewritten by the way
4292: I would keep gnome panels and ditch Gnome 3.X
Keep Gnome panels as an option at least . Gnome 3.x might be OK for small screens but it is almost useless on a desktop multitasking environment
4293: 1. Move window decoration icons back from top left to top right
2.
3.
Don't change things for the sake of it. Familiarity is a major factor in ease of use.
4294: Mouse wheel should be used more. For example, use mouse wheel to switch between applications when used on the tool bar (like alt+tab)
Allow more customization of the gnome shell. Specifically how notification are handled. At the moment when using gnome shell there is no obvious way to see that something has happened unless you saw the initial notification. For example that you had pidgin messages while you where away. It should be something on the tool bar like the old envelope icon.
The new sleek direction the shell is taking is pleasing but keep the power user in mind. A large amount of Linux users are there for the freedom to do anything.
Present the power user with the default shell but give options, many many options so that they may configure their desktop as they would like to have it.
4295: 1)Bring the improvements brought to GNOME 3 to the GNOME 2 interface
2)Stop hiding configuration options
3)Get rid of the application menu replacement that requires more clicks to do the same job
Start listening to the community, you do NOT know what's best for us.
4296: I don't really want any changes from Gnome 2, I'm happy with it. Just bugfixes. However, with the advent of Gnome 3 on the one hand and Unity on the other, I'm going to have to change to retain my old desktop centric, happily multitasking, WIMP-environment.
Stop changing every bloody thing just for the sake of changing. Also stop developing a system for an imaginary computer novice/idiot that a) don't exist anymore and hasn't for the past 20 years, and b) isn't using Gnome anyway. Also get your hands on a couple of *real* usability expert instead of the self styled ones that are in charge now and clearly don't know anything about usability.
4297: Get rid of panels and use a dock
Use a lot less resources
Better graphics acceleration for the UI
4298: Get rid of all current developers, make the interface sane.
My desktop is not a phone. I need to get real work done and have the ability to customize. It's the strength of Linux.
4299: Having a taskbar and a single notification area not two.
Also more settings available by default
4300: - The fact that the desktop goes to the Activities menu when the last window closes (even if it's just a splash screen and another window opens instantly afterwards, or if I go from full screen VirtualBox to windowed mode and vice versa).
- The fact that some dialogs (esp. settings dialogs) form a part of the window instead of a new one and thus cannot be dragged around anymore, keeping me from seeing something that I might want to enter (examples: bookmark>right click>properties in Firefox covers up the address bar, or tools>preferences in VLC keeps me from pausing my music/video).
- The huge text in all UI elements eating up screen space.
Just those three items I mentioned in #22.
