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Some terms...

Ravage's ending from the Transmetals game:

Ravage decided that it was time for him to fight for the Decepticon legacy once again.
Ravage betrayed the Predacon Commander Megatron, then entered the ancient Autobot battle cruiser, the Ark. Ravage then produced a prototype cloning device based on transreplication technology.
This device would allow him to produce clones of the ancient Transformers, complete with memories and personality functions intact.
One by one, he downloaded protoform cloning data of the legendary warriors... Megatron, Skywarp, Starscream, Thundercracker, Reflector, Rumble, Frenzy, Laserbeak, Buzzsaw... And of course, Soundwave...
Ravage returned to Predacon space. The moment was close at hand. Soon, he would revive the Decepticon army to conquor the future... To conquor... Forever!

So the term 'transreplication' seems to fit into normal TF replication in Beast-Era. (I'm cautious about that, but I don't see any other conclusion...) The term has to be in there SOMEWHERE at least.

And in the Young Corgi TF books, Hot Rod says he was Matrixed, whichs eems to be the proper term, despite taking place after the Matrix left on the Ark. (Blaster's less than 4 million years old too, so clearly this is POSSIBLE...)


Oh, and YET ANOTHER retellign of TF means of reproduction that leaves out the EXPLICIT DESCRIPTION of how new TF's are made from Dreamwaves MTMTE. Yaay! Oh sure, it's only been out there for 3 years, but I still run into people who insist on having passionate discussions about how this sort of thing works, insisting they're right- who've never heard of the Dreamwave version. Which is STARTLINGLY SIMILAR to the Transmaters version, and also fits the terminology of the Young Corgi version.

It's an uncomplicated scenario that actually AGREES WITH THE FANNON. Am I really being unrealistic to say 'Gosh, I really wish we'd gotten the one explicit explanation of TF reproduction up here on the first try?' (clearly, I'm being picky) -Derik 06:19, 16 May 2006 (UTC)



Not up on Masterforce. How exactly do the Transectors there gain life, as that should be referenced as well.

Devil Z uses his powers to do it, methinks that shouldn't be counted as it was like a one time supernatural miracle performed by a god. That would be like recounting Adam and Eve in an article about Human reproduction.

In RiD, does it actually say that Prime and Magnus were re-built from existing robots at any point? I recall Prime saying he and Magnus were "created by Alpha Trion," but don't have tapes on me to check. -128.239.180.231 20:27, 26 October 2006

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Matrix Flame and Magnus ?

Where does the part about the Matrix Flame being able to create life and being used to make Magnus come from. I've heard it before , but I looked through Target 2006 and I don't see it in there. All that is shown in there is that the Matrix Flame acts as an "indicator light" for the status of the matrix. There's nothing about it creating life or Magnus that I can see. Citation? -ZacWilliam 13:28, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Here. -Derik 00:02, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Ah thanks. That's what get for looking in the TPB and not the actual issues. :).

"Decepticon's Uncle"

In the g1 epesode City of Steel Side Swipe makes Starscream "say Uncle" and then remarks that he didn't know Decepticons had uncles? Should this be taken as more than a joke, does this mean Autobots have families and Decepticons don't?

I would say a joke. It's just a dehumanization (so to speak) of the other side, as in "I didn't even know Communists HAD mothers!" That doesn't imply Communists don't have mothers, just that they're perceived to be too inhuman to be normal people with normal relationships like good red-blooded Americans. --ItsWalky 22:54, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Sparkling?

Just a quick question:

For those of you who don't frequent the Transformers section of Fanfiction.net, "sparkling" is a fandom term for a Transformer baby or child. I was wondering if there is a similar term used in official fiction anywhere to describe "child" transformers, like Wheelie or that Lithion kid shown on in the article? --Nightshade83

Official term is just "protoform" to my knowledge. IE expressions like "that would be protoform-play."--RosicrucianTalk 07:50, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
The only thing close to "Sparkling" that I know of in official cannon is Spike's StarTV dub name. --ItsWalky 07:54, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Sureshot's TFU profile uses "prototype" in this manner. --Sntint 02:15, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

CNA

Why the hell do ROBOTS have genetic material? Even if Furman never passed high school biology, a quick wiki search would do a lot to counter that theory! Sorry, I'm just frusterated when the people that are supposed to be professional writers do less research than fan fiction writers. You would think "professional" would indicate a level of quality. --Nightshade83 16:23, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Um.. Transformers are not robots of the sort you could do any research about on the net. They're unimaginably advanced, infinately more complex and technologically different alien lifeforms that just happen to be of a robotic nature. There's absolutely no reason they shouldn't have their own robotic equivilent of genetic material. --ZacWilliam 16:36, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Since they can reproduce, they obviously have genetic material of some sort. It might just consist of a stored database of standard Transformer parts, normal ways to put a TF together, etc. It's probably much more complicated than that, given that in many continuiities, TFs appear to have something going on at the nanometer scale.
Also, budding. JW 16:48, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Hatchlings

Shouldn't we add something about the hatchlings from RotF? β€”The preceding unsigned comment was added by 173.71.116.203 (talk β€’ contribs) 19:34, 4 July 2009.

It IS kinda complicated, the first movie told us that Cybertronians are made by the allspark, and that without it, no further life can be created. HOWEVER, this does not actualy add up, because there are transformers made after the cube disapeared. Now from what Starscream said in the movie, they only actualy need the energon to "mature" them. does anyone know how everything fits?(also, please sign with four "~" after your post.)--Sunjumper 16:49, 10 July 2009 (EDT)
I don't think there is much information about them, so, not much to say factually yet. They are called protoforms in the novel. If I were to guess and try to reconcile the story with Defiance, I would say they are Decepticons who regressed back to protoform for the long journey searching for the Harvester. - Starfield 18:24, 10 July 2009 (EDT)

Reference and Reproduction Explanation

I know this should probably be mentioned on a "references in popular culture"-type page but I couldn't find it... Anyway on an episode of an anime series known as Panty & Stocking, which parodied Transformers (episode name: Transhomers), it shows what appears to be a visual explanation of Transformer reproduction. Though it is just for laughs, I believe it might probably deserve a mention here or most likely on your list of "references in popular culture"-type page. You can watch the video here on youtube to see that I am not a lying dimwit. I apologize again if this was a waste of your time. -24.139.80.64 21:04, 18 November 2010 (EST)

Unfortunately, we don't have parodies of Transformers on the website, so it'll have to be excluded. Maybe a reference to the show in a caption, at most. --NCZ 21:25, 18 November 2010 (EST)

"Forged" and "Constructed Cold"

In IDW we have those terms to refer to Transformers (re)production. It appears that they are assembled, or at least it sounds like they are manufactured in a factory, to me, but I don't want to make any premature assumptions. It seems that medics were forged(or the best medics were) and that Ironfist was "Constructed Cold" (See Chaos Theory Part 1; MTMTE #4, The Last Stand of The Wreckers)[1] . -- Anonymous 8:10, 21 April 2012 (CET)

"Bio-Morphic" Reproduction ("Budding")

The "Budding" term always seemed really lightweight to me, especially for such an intense phenomenon. ("Fission" seems like a better term to me.) I was happy to find the term "bio-morphic reproduction" referenced in the article about G1 Mutants. That article cites an interview with Simon Furman in which the interviewer and SF both use the term "Bio-Morphic" in reference to G2's "Budding" and the Mutants being a by-product of that process. Shouldn't the term "Bio-Morphic Reproduction" be mentioned in the "Budding" section of the Reproduction article? Especially considering that the Mutant (G1) article uses the term explicitly as a link to the Reproduction article, but does NOT link directly to the "Budding" section. :-/ - Grebo Guru (07/09/2013)

It does seem like a term that should be mentioned, but we should try and track down an official source for it - the DK Ultimate Guide springs to mind, I'll have a look through that when I get a chance. Incidentally, welcome aboard, I like your username. Good to have another PWEI fan about the place. --Emvee 02:49, 11 July 2013 (EDT)
I was surprised "budding" isn't official. The wiki makes it look official by putting it into quotes. This is how Optimus Prime describes it in the G2 comic:
No! This cannot be! I am witnessing some form of bio-morphic reproduction... a 'splitting' of one into two! Two into four... and...
- Gimmick (talk) 18:15, 21 November 2013 (EST)

The End of Cold Construction

According to Tyrest, they were stockpiling new sparks from the Matrix faster than they could build new bodies. So even though the Matrix vanished during Nova Prime's reign, they may have continued pumping out "Constructed Cold" Cybertronians for some time after that. (Especially since they couldn't actually acknowledge publically that the Matrix was missing.) So we don't know WHEN the last Constructed Cold 'bot finally rolled off the assembly line, except that by the time of Nominus Prime's assassination, Senator Shockwave had begun lobbying for a return to the Spark-Splicing program. So all Constructed Cold 'bots definitely predate Sentinel Prime, but may have continued coming alive for some time during Nominus Prime's reign. --Xaaron (talk) 08:29, 21 November 2013 (EST)

Forged / Cold Split?

We're getting more and more information about the IDW birthing process. Is it time to consider splitting these concepts onto a separate page(s), instead of redirecting into the Reproduction article?

Similar question: more and more robots are getting ID'ed as Forged or Constructed Cold. Do we want to continue listing all the revelations in paragraph form, or shift it into a list format? --Xaaron (talk) 08:34, 10 July 2014 (EDT)

I had a crack at tabulating it - there's probably a couple I missed though --Emvee (talk) 17:29, 12 July 2014 (EDT)

IDW: Mechanical construction vs infusion

I think the IDW section should be moved to the infusion section because you need a spark from the matrix or vector sigma, you can't just build a body and turn it on. It seems to be more along the lines of the aerialbots and stunticons creation which is covered in the infusion section. omegatron (talk) 08:47, 8 March 2015 (EDT)

G1 Constructicons

Doesn't Megatron mention at some point that the Constructicons were built in a cave?--RedWingGladiator (talk) 13:20, 28 May 2016 (EDT)

IDW Skywarp and Thundercracker

There's an inconsistency with these two, as both are listed as Outliers, and I cannot imagine Skywarp in particular to NOT be an outlier, but they're also listed as first wave constructed cold. I can't find any evidence of being names as Outliers (beyond being able to teleport), or any evidence of being constructed cold (Beyond looking exactly like Starscream etc, who we know WAS constructed cold)--Pit_fishes (talk) 13:07, 22 Jan 2018 (GMT)

They're named as outliers in the Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook. I don't believe they've been confirmed as Constructed Cold, but when questioned on it, James Roberts pointed to the Senate's experiments on sparks in Elegant Chaos. --Riptide (talk) 08:13, 22 January 2018 (EST)
Yeah, it looks like somebody added all the Seekers to Constructed Cold just because of TAAO #12. I don't think that's viable. Just because Constructed Cold sparks were being put in Seeker-type bodies doesn't mean ONLY CC bots can be Seeker-types. Forged 'bots could have taken those bodies as well, like say the Aerial Corps had a "uniform". I'm removing the Seekers from being automatically-assumed CCs. --Xaaron (talk) 09:26, 22 January 2018 (EST)
EDIT: I also added a Note to Skywarp and Thundercracker's IDW pages about the ambiguity. Can someone add a footnote to them citing Roberts' Twitter post about Elegant Chaos? --Xaaron (talk) 09:40, 22 January 2018 (EST)
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