👁 Image

This article is written in British English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, defence, artefact, analyse) and some terms may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

👁 Featured article	Howard Florey is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
👁 Main Page trophy	This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on October 25, 2023.
👁 Did You Know 👁 On this day... Article milestones Date Process Result June 22, 2023 Good article nominee Listed August 17, 2023 Featured article candidate Promoted 👁 Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on July 1, 2023. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Howard Florey led the team that developed penicillin? 👁 On this day... Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on February 21, 2019, September 24, 2023, and September 24, 2024. Current status: Featured article

👁 Image

This 👁 Image  level-5 vital article is rated FA-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

👁 WikiProject icon Biography: Peerage and Baronetage / Science and Academia 👁 WikiProject icon 👁 Image Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography 👁 Taskforce icon This article is supported by WikiProject Peerage and Baronetage (assessed as High-importance). 👁 Taskforce icon This article is supported by the science and academia work group (assessed as High-importance). 👁 WikiProject icon University of Oxford Low‑importance 👁 WikiProject icon 👁 Image University of Oxford portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject University of Oxford, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the University of Oxford on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.University of OxfordWikipedia:WikiProject University of OxfordTemplate:WikiProject University of OxfordUniversity of Oxford Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale. 👁 WikiProject icon Physiology Mid‑importance 👁 WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Physiology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Physiology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PhysiologyWikipedia:WikiProject PhysiologyTemplate:WikiProject PhysiologyPhysiology Mid This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the importance scale. 👁 Taskforce icon This article has been classified as relating to the field of physiology. 👁 WikiProject icon Medicine: Society Low‑importance 👁 WikiProject icon 👁 icon Medicine portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Medicine, which recommends that medicine-related articles follow the Manual of Style for medicine-related articles and that biomedical information in any article use high-quality medical sources. Please visit the project page for details or ask questions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine.MedicineWikipedia:WikiProject MedicineTemplate:WikiProject Medicinemedicine Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale. 👁 Taskforce icon This article is supported by the Society and Medicine task force (assessed as Low-importance). 👁 WikiProject icon Pharmacology Mid‑importance 👁 WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of WikiProject Pharmacology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Pharmacology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PharmacologyWikipedia:WikiProject PharmacologyTemplate:WikiProject Pharmacologypharmacology Mid This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale. 👁 WikiProject icon Australia High‑importance 👁 icon 👁 icon 👁 WikiProject icon 👁 flag Australia portal Howard Florey is within the scope of WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Australia and Australia-related topics. If you would like to participate, visit the project page.AustraliaWikipedia:WikiProject AustraliaTemplate:WikiProject AustraliaAustralia High This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale. 👁 Note icon Need help improving this article? Ask a LibrarianWhat's this? at the National Library of Australia. 👁 Note icon The Wikimedia Australia chapter can be contacted via email to help👁 @ wikimedia.org.au for non-editorial assistance. 👁 WikiProject icon Military history: Biography / Technology / South Pacific 👁 WikiProject icon This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history Associated task forces: /  👁 Taskforce icon Military biography task force 👁 Taskforce icon Military science, technology, and theory task force 👁 Taskforce icon Australia, New Zealand and South Pacific military history task force

👁 Image

It is requested that an image or photograph of the memorial stone of Howard Florey in Westminster Abbey be included in this article to improve its quality. Please replace this template with a more specific media request template where possible.The Free Image Search Tool or Openverse Creative Commons Search may be able to locate suitable images on Flickr and other websites.

Upload

👁 Image

Section sizes Section size for Howard Florey (30 sections) Section name Byte count Prose size (words) Header Total Header Total (Top) 4,868 4,868 375 375 Early life and education 8,689 8,689 496 496 Rhodes Scholar 7,849 7,849 634 634 Early career 19 19,680 0 2,061 London Hospital 1,784 1,784 171 171 University of Cambridge 4,315 4,315 401 401 University of Sheffield 5,166 5,166 472 472 University of Oxford 8,396 8,396 1,017 1,017 Penicillin 49 30,624 0 3,035 Development 13,071 13,071 1,148 1,148 North American supply 4,570 4,570 552 552 Clinical trials 2,026 2,026 236 236 North Africa 3,126 3,126 407 407 Soviet Union 640 640 89 89 Australia 3,631 3,631 295 295 Recognition 3,511 3,511 308 308 Later life 15 23,604 0 2,360 Cephalosporins 3,350 3,350 392 392 Australian National University 8,640 8,640 793 793 President of the Royal Society 4,401 4,401 536 536 Provost of Queen's College, Oxford 5,390 5,390 453 453 Personal life 1,808 1,808 186 186 Honours and awards 4,786 4,786 265 265 Death 3,548 3,548 188 188 Posthumous honours and legacy 4,384 4,384 167 167 In film 1,876 1,876 95 95 Notes 28 28 0 0 References 3,984 3,984 0 0 Further reading 914 914 0 0 External links 2,558 2,558 0 0 Total 117,392 117,392 9,676 9,676

The article states that he was a Rhodes scholar at Queen's Oxford whereas the biography Biography claims it was Magdalen Oxford ("He was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship to Magdalen College, Oxford, leading to the degrees of B.Sc. and M.A. (1924)"). roundhouse 10:57, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[]

Another biography I have confirms that it was Magdalen. --Peta 01:01, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[]

About the best you can say about this article is that it's (probably) accurate as far as it goes, but a scientific giant deserves a far superior article to this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.96.19.126 (talk) 06:18, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[]

Well 58.96.19.126, nobody is stopping you getting off your posterior and doing something about it ... Pdfpdf (talk) 12:26, 8 December 2009 (UTC)'[]

I don't see how cited reference 3 supports his view on contraception. Did I miss something or has the wrong referenced been cited? Pclindstrom (talk) 13:46, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[]

Since I've never been really clear on this, shouldn't the page be moved to "Howard, Baron Florey"? (I don't care either way, & won't be watching. Just asking.) TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 10:49, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[]

Maybe. However, he's "well known" (whatever that means) as Howard Florey ... Pdfpdf (talk) 12:26, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Howard Florey. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20091021090735/http://www.royalberkshire.nhs.uk/wards__departments/s/sexual_health.aspx?theme=patient to http://www.royalberkshire.nhs.uk/wards__departments/s/sexual_health.aspx?theme=Patient

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 01:50, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Howard Florey/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: STEMinfo (talk · contribs) 00:21, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a. (prose, spelling, and grammar): 👁 Image
   

   b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): 👁 Image
   

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a. (reference section): 👁 Image
   

   b. (citations to reliable sources): 👁 Image
   

   c. (OR): 👁 Image
   

   d. (copyvio and plagiarism): 👁 Image
   

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a. (major aspects): 👁 Image
   

   b. (focused): 👁 Image
   

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias: 👁 Image
   

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.: 👁 Image
   

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): 👁 Image
   

   b. (appropriate use with suitable captions): 👁 Image
   

7. Overall:

   Pass/fail: 👁 Image
   

(Criteria marked 👁 Image
are unassessed)

@Hawkeye7: If that's the case, then why don't you just add IPA to the lead? The pronounciation of "sorry" differs in countries like America and Australia. — VORTEX (Talk!) 10:46, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[]

I don't know how to format IPA. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 10:56, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[]

I had to look at the article to understand this and find it says, His surname rhymes with "sorry". Note that a rhyme is not the same as a pronunciation and seems rather weaker. I reckon that the vowel sound will vary depending upon the speaker's accent. I'm British and would use a longer o for Florey than for sorry. Americans might give it more of an a sound as that's common for them. And Australians would be more nasal.

Anyway, I agree that IPA is best avoided per WP:NOTDIC and doubt that that there's any real need to say anything about this as it's not a complex case like Mainwaring or Featherstonhaugh. Is there supposed to be a significant alternative?

Andrew🐉(talk) 17:49, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[]

You can hear Florey pronounce his name in the Hazel de Berg interview in the external links. The problem is a common practice of pronouncing it like "story" instead of "sorry". Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:25, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[]

He leads off by saying "This is Howard Walter Florey..." . To my ear, he pronounces Florey just as I would. And, to me, this is more like "story" than "sorry". So, I suppose it depends how you expect those words to be spoken and our expectations must be different.

It was good to hear the man himself and so this link's description might make it clearer that it is a recording rather than a transcript. What struck me more than the pronunciation of his name, was that he didn't then have a strong Australian accent or twang. His voice sounded quite cultivated and RP. It reminds me of Tony Benn.

Andrew🐉(talk) 08:46, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[]

It's a cultivated Australian accent. Lots of older adults used to talk that way when I was a boy. I thought being able to hear the man himself was awesome. Few people follow external links. I'm glad someone did. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 09:36, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[]

This is really interesting! Ashtoastsunmarrampotatochips (talk) 11:43, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[]

Thanks to Hawkeye7 for his work on this article, which I enjoyed reading this morning. As there's a picture request above, I thought I'd try to fill that and so popped over to Westminster Abbey. I've been inside there several times for free but today it was in tourist mode and it would have cost about £50 for the two of us to get in. This seemed a bit much for a quick photo of something which is easy to view online. So, we moved on to Chinatown and spent the money on some wonton noodle soup instead. I'll try again another day when attending a service – the Sunday organ recitals are good.

If Hawkeye7 has any other pending requests for images in the London area, they should feel free to ask me direct and I'll see what I can do.

Andrew🐉(talk) 18:19, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[]

The article states that Florey attended Unley Park School alongside a Mollie Clampett, but Unley Park School's wikipedia page states that it was a school for girls. Which statement is correct? The article doesn't cite any sources for the claim and I couldn't find any online. Cubicake (talk) 09:15, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[]

So you checked the source and what did it say?

Howard Florey used to escape from the rather forbidding atmosphere of Coreega to play in their garden with the rectory children, and Mollie Clampett, who was eighteen months older than he was, became a firm friend from that time and for the rest of his life. Mollie was a day-girl at a local private school, Unley Park, run by a Miss Thornborough, and Howard, too, became a pupil there.

The article is fully sourced. I expect an apology for your claim otherwise. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 09:38, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[]

Is that from citation 6 (Howard Florey: The Making of a Great Scientist)? If so, my apologies. Attempting to open that citation on worldcat.org as linked just resulted in the message "You are being redirected to the Flinders University Library site | WorldCat.org". I kept the page open for 10 minutes but it never redirected me.

That excerpt states that they attended a school named "Unley Park School" run by a "Miss Thornborough" though, but the linked article for the school redirects to an article for "Catherine Thornber" and explicitly states that the school was a single-sex girls' school, as supported by the sources hereand here.

Therefore, I believe the new question is if there were two schools colloquially named "Unley Park School", in which case the link to Unley Park School should be removed, or if they are the same school and one or more sources is wrong. Cubicake (talk) 12:14, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[]

They are the same school. Boys sometimes attended the girls' school until they were old enough to go to the boys' school. This was very common until the 1970s. A 1909 class photo. The book from citation 6 is available on the Internet archive library at [1]. Macfarlane has spelt "Thornbur" incorrectly because his source was an interview with Florey. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:24, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[]

Alright, I appreciate the clarification Cubicake (talk) 00:08, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[]

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Howard_Florey&oldid=1326226343"