Talk:The Sham (episode)

oh no!!!!!!!! 80.195.94.10 12:04, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

I think this page should be moved to The Sham (episode). The Sham was the name of the character now called Bedlam, and whenever this was changed it was well after the episode came out, after multiple appearances in media. Most people are going to remember the skin. This on the other hand is just, episode 4 of an already obscure show. It's not the primary use of the name, and since the character is primarily a skin this arguably violates the vanilla confusion rule. Realshow19 (talk) 18:29, 13 September 2025 (UTC)

It has been years since the series came out and People searching for the skin/mob will search Bedlam as that page existed for years now. If a few people get confused, then they can click the link in the disambig notice that redirects people to Bedlam. The episode has been the primary use of the term for years. Most people know the name as the episode.Drour1234 (talk) 18:35, 13 September 2025 (UTC)

For most of the character's history, it was called the Sham. The episode is certainly the most memorable thing it's been in, but let's not act like Mini-Series is more well known than it is, most people aren't going to think about it first over the skin. We don't even know when the name change happened. Realshow19 (talk) 18:39, 13 September 2025 (UTC)

I would say the episode and the skin are of equal importance, with the series being a bit higher because it is more known than the skin. Also, again, the skin has been known for years now as Bedlam. In addition, the disambig notice at the top of The Sham page serves the purpose of letting people know that the term once referred to the skin before the skin was renamed to Bedlam years ago.Drour1234 (talk) 18:54, 13 September 2025 (UTC)

The classic skin packs are collectively pretty well regarded, from my experience anyway I see people nostalgic for them pretty often, and they're still being sold on the Marketplace and used in ads occasionally. Mini-Series simply, isn't super well known. That's not me dismissing it, but the episode still only has about one million views, when the average let's play tends to have 10-20 million. If we don't even know when the name Bedlam was established then I wouldn't say it's mainly known as that, most of that recognition probably comes from us documenting the change. Realshow19 (talk) 19:02, 13 September 2025 (UTC)