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Jul 19, 2022 3:59 PM
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a great movie, it had truly stunning visuals but i do have to add...

what a crap excuse for a father, her father was emotionally distant and probably didnt make much difference when he was there. He slapped her because she didn't have her shoes on and didn't allow her to star in a play, makes me feel bad for all of them (even that bratty typical sister.)
Jul 19, 2022 8:16 PM
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go1d1eaf said:
a great movie, it had truly stunning visuals but i do have to add...

what a crap excuse for a father, her father was emotionally distant and probably didnt make much difference when he was there. He slapped her because she didn't have her shoes on and didn't allow her to star in a play, makes me feel bad for all of them (even that bratty typical sister.)

Asian parent in the 70s...that's pretty much normal at that time.
Jul 19, 2022 8:57 PM
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go1d1eaf said:
a great movie, it had truly stunning visuals but i do have to add...

what a crap excuse for a father, her father was emotionally distant and probably didnt make much difference when he was there. He slapped her because she didn't have her shoes on and didn't allow her to star in a play, makes me feel bad for all of them (even that bratty typical sister.)

that dad is a defination of Hayao Miyazaki himself lol
Mar 16, 2023 5:48 PM
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By today's standards yeah, but by 60s and 70s father standards he's average to above average.
Mar 26, 2023 3:14 PM
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I thought the same way, it was really interesting to see a Japanese family structure at that time and the patriarchal dominance of the father figure--silent yet authoritative, and no one, not even the grandmother, can speak back to what he wanted which is really gross lol. Definitely glad Japanese women have more autonomy than during the era of this movie.
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Feb 25, 5:43 PM
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He was pretty much standard Japanese dad in 1966, combined with Taeko being an 'unwanted' 3rd girl child led to problems.
Mar 8, 4:16 PM
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I actually thought her mom was worse. Most asian families had the patriarchal confucian culture we see in the film. The fact that it was the first and last time he had hit her, and that they ended up not eating out after, shows that they all instantly regretted it.

And his fears about showbiz are understandable, as we can see how Taeko complained to her sister for mentioning it.
Should the mother have tried to have a talk with him later?
Should he have at least discussed it with the rest of the family and hear their arguments?
Sure.
But that would be us applying a modern lens to a realistic film set up at a place and time when merely looking at the patriach directly into his eyes while at the table was considered disrespectful. (see how they purposefuly prolong the end of that scene, showing Taeko is the only one eyeing him directly)

The mother saying she cares more about her daughter eating pickles than she does about her writing skills and school essays, even when Taeko is all excited telling her about something that is school-related? That's really crappy. And so was saying she's not 'normal' for failing a math test at 10 years old. wtf

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