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⇱ Erdős Problem #411


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Let $g_1=g(n)=n+\phi(n)$ and $g_k(n)=g(g_{k-1}(n))$. For which $n$ and $r$ is it true that $g_{k+r}(n)=2g_k(n)$ for all large $k$?
#411: [ErGr80,p.81]
number theory | iterated functions
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The known solutions to $g_{k+2}(n)=2g_k(n)$ are $n=10$ and $n=94$. Selfridge and Weintraub found solutions to $g_{k+9}(n)=9g_k(n)$ and Weintraub found\[g_{k+25}(3114)=729g_k(3114)\]for all $k\geq 6$.

Steinerberger [St25] has observed that, for $r=2$, this problem is equivalent to asking for solutions to\[\phi(n)+\phi(n+\phi(n))=n,\]and has shown that if this holds then either the odd part of $n$ is in $\{1,3,5,7,35,47\}$, or is equal to $8m+7$ or $6m+5$, where $8m+7\geq 10^{10}$ is a prime number and $\phi(6m+5)=4m+4$. Whether there are infinitely many such $m$ is related to the question of whether\[\phi(n)=\frac{2}{3}(n+1)\]has infinitely many solutions.

Cambie conjectures that the only solutions have $r=2$ and $n=2^lp$ for some $l\geq 1$ and $p\in \{2,3,5,7,35,47\}$. Cambie has shown this problem is reducible to the question of which integers $r,t\geq 1$ and primes $p\equiv 7\pmod{8}$ satisfy $g_k(2p^t)=4p^t$, and conjectures there are no solutions to this except when $t=1$ and $p\in \{7,47\}$. Cambie has also observed that\[g_{k+4}(738)=3g_k(738),\]\[g_{k+4}(148646)=4g_k(148646),\]and\[g_{k+4}(4325798)=4g_{k}(4325798)\]for all $k\geq 1$.

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