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Latest comment: 31 March 2024 by Plighting Engineerd in topic Simplify
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Latest comment: 31 March 202412 comments5 people in discussion
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I believe this template should be simplified. On mobile, it takes up literally the entire screen, so if you search 'wind charge' for example, this is what you'd be met with: (image on side). 👁 Image
plighting_engineerd (talk) 00:34, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

To clarify, this is talking about {{experimental}}. That talk page redirects here for some reason. 👁 Image
plighting_engineerd (talk) 00:35, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
I've moved this topic to the correct talk page. — Misode (talk) 00:42, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. 👁 Image
plighting_engineerd (talk) 00:43, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
If you look at the revision history, you can see that this template was created in October last year to replace the sometimes 3 separate message boxes (for example in development for JE, planned for BE, experimental gameplay). It's already been reduced to the bare minimum. It's hard to propose something that takes up less text but still contains the same information. Unless you have a concrete alternative in mind? — Misode (talk) 00:46, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
I do actually have a few suggestions. Below is the current message as it is displayed on Wind Charge:
This page describes an experimental feature in Java Edition and Bedrock Edition.
 
This feature is not enabled in-game by default and requires enabling the "Update 1.21" experimental data pack in Java Edition or the "Update 1.21" setting in the "Experiments" section in Bedrock Edition.
And here is my proposed message:
This page describes an experimental feature in Java Edition and Bedrock Edition.
 
It is not enabled in-game by default and requires enabling the "Update 1.21" experiment.
This cuts the second line of the msgbox in half. The main optimization is that if the experiment name is the same in both editions, it wouldn't have to be duplicated. I am not very familiar with mw template syntax so I don't know how easy that would be. The other change is that instead of saying experimental data pack in Java Edition and setting in the "Experiments" section in Bedrock Edition, we could just say experiment in Java Edition and Bedrock Edition and combine the two, as Java now has (and has had for a while) a seperate experiments menu, like Bedrock edition. We also don't actually need to say in Java Edition and Bedrock Edition since they are the same and the editions are said in the title of the msgbox. 👁 Image
plighting_engineerd (talk) 01:08, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
That seems reasonable, 👁 Image
 Support! — Misode (talk) 01:39, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Since toggles are matching between aditions nowadays, I 👁 Image
 Support this –MetalManeMc, 👁 Image
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To clarify, the full new functionality would be as follows:
- If only one edition is defined, the bottom text would end with and requires enabling the "Experiment name" experiment., because the edition is already said in the title.
- If multiple editions are defined with the same experiment name, the bottom text would end with and requires enabling the "Experiment name" experiment.. Exact same as above. Again, the editions this applies to would be defined in the title of the msgbox.
- If multiple editions are defined with different experiment names, the bottom text would end with and requires enabling the "JE experiment name" in Java Edition or the "BE experiment name" in Bedrock Edition.
Looking through the MW template syntax, this doesn't look very hard to do. The only thing to consider is what to do with the link. Currently, individual links can be defined for the experiment text in each edition. I am not sure what should be done with this in the new, proposed version, as the two edition experiment names would be combined and couldn't have separate links.
If that gets decided, I think everything else works and this could be put into effect, right? 👁 Image
plighting_engineerd (talk) 18:27, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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 Strong support - This template is especially bad on mobile, needs cutting down ASAP. - Harristic / Talk 👁 Image
12:42, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
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 Support, although you probably don't need it at this point, noone seems to be opposing. --Melwin22 (talk) 18:27, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, yeah, we just need someone who knows how to implement it. 👁 Image
plighting_engineerd (talk) 18:32, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
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