I noticed when my thumb feels the edge of the touchpad the movement will sometimes cut out completely or temporarily. I use the entire touchpad surface and set up sprint on the outer edge, so this has made the touchpad too unreliable to use for movement. Also, makes the small touchpad feel even smaller having to try to avoid touching the edge.

If there is no software solution then maybe 3D printing a rim around the touchpad to physically prevent the thumb from extending the edge might a possible route to go.

This is a configuration bug or adjustment issue, if you can still see the whole pad capable of registering touch in the controller test. I just tested mine, and the pads register my touch throughout, to the very edges. If yours doesn't, that might be grounds for RMA.

The anti-hooking should be user-definable, I agree.

Originally posted by J.P.:

This is a configuration bug or adjustment issue, if you can still see the whole pad capable of registering touch in the controller test. I just tested mine, and the pads register my touch throughout, to the very edges. If yours doesn't, that might be grounds for RMA.

The anti-hooking should be user-definable, I agree.

I've been deep in the steam controller community since the first one launched.

Its a problem in steam input. The controller reports the full range of the trackpads in hid. Steam Inputs tester can see the full range (as can anything else that reads the hid report). But then that "anti-hooking" feature steps in and "kills" the edges before the trackpad position touches anything else in steam input.

This was an issue a decade ago with sc1 as well. Only back then, it wasnt called "anti-hooking". It was there to prevent accidentally activating the trackpad when using abxy ("anti-fat finger"). We complained about it then, and had to cope for *years* with not being able to use the full range of the trackpads.

This was an issue years ago when the Deck launched. They started off with the fat fingering excuse - to prevent accidental activation of the trackpad when reaching over to use the touch screen - but at some point shifted over to "anti-hooking". They moved the goal post of the excuse, instead of fixing the issue.

And it continues to be an issue on sc2... only its gotten worse within the past 2 updates. Before it was just the "inner" edges, and only affected "as mouse" mode (possibly "as joystick" as well, but I never bothered to test it). Now its ALL edges and it affects ALL modes.

I dont even agree that anti-hooking is even needed; its possible to learn how to use the trackpads in a way that hooking isnt an issue. And back when it was a "fat fingering" thing, the dead edge on sc1 was small enough that some people would fat finger the trackpad when using abxy anyway (the hallmark of a setting that should be customizable; big enough to be noticeable, small enough to not even do its job in some circumstances). I even exploited being able to do that in some of my configs.

But assuming that I did agree that anti-hooking is needed, its obvious it should be a setting. Let people chose which behavior works for them.

Oddly enough, the only issue I ran into with the original was that edge next to the face buttons.
I tend to set the edge to continue movement if my finger was pulled there. It didn't kill the input entirely, but was slowed down drastically.

Anti-hooking on edges seem to be removed for the most part in the newest firmware, but still remains on the left edge of the right pad 👁 :winter2019saddog:

Originally posted by J.P.:

Anti-hooking on edges seem to be removed for the most part in the newest firmware, but still remains on the left edge of the right pad :winter2019saddog:

Its not firmware, its software.

And yes. The latest beta fixed the "oops all dead edges" issue, but the anti-hooking inner dead edge is still there.