Dungeons talk:Arch-Illager

In the gallery, a "messy desk" is shown in some secret room. Where is this?

References like that need a citation from a dev otherwise it shouldn't be mentioned. – Nixinova 👁 Image
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20:30, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

It needs a reference for actually being similar?

Kaos = Short, robed, magic-wielding Portal Master who is bent on world domination and is the main antagonist of the Skylanders franchise.

Arch-Illager = Short, robed, magic-wielding hammer-faced Illager who is bent on world domination and is the main antagonist of Minecraft: Dungeons

Starting to see it now? --AwesomeNinja886 (talk) (👁 Image
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It doesn't matter if you think it's sinilar, a statement from a dev is needed for it to be in the article. – Nixinova 👁 Image
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20:59, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

See MCW:SG#Writing:

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Other information however, such as quotes from Mojang employees and information that is not widely known, must be sourced with a proper reference. The ^{[citation needed]} template should be placed after any information that requires a source. Do not add content to an article if you cannot find a proper source.

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21:00, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

I tried to fix some stuff but messed up the page, if somebody can redo my edit without messing up the sounds table please do. — Godslayerchickennugget (talk | contribs) 15:53, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Why you guys are adding the sounds of the Heart of Ender on the Arch-Illager page? we have its own page--201.95.87.83 19:01, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Because they technically are the same mob, they have arch in their name and both have very similar sounds. James Haydon (talk) 19:04, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

And Archie is still visible on the heart of ender.--201.95.87.83 19:17, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes so they are classified as the same mob even though they have their own pages. James Haydon (talk) 19:20, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

The Arch Illager has some sounds that he only makes in the mojang trailers. I think they should be on the page in a separate section. PedroDungeons1776 (talk) 10:00, 1 February (UTC)

Those sounds will be hard to record without background noise of some kind considering they play music in those trailers. Not to mention they will require some time with audio editing since we have to cut them from videos. James Haydon (talk) 14:59, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Ok, I understand. PedroDungeons1776 (talk) 18:38, 1 February (UTC)

Don't worry, you can still add them if you want. James Haydon (talk) 18:43, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Okay. I added one that has no background noise. We can hear the Arch Illager making this sound (similar to an Evoker) only at the end of the main trailer.PedroDungeons1776 (talk) 18:50, 1 February (UTC)

Can you think of any other sounds? Like just check the trailers he is featured in. James Haydon (talk) 18:54, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes. For example: When Arch Illager appears at the end of the trailer, he makes that sound and more five, all of these sounds are exclusive of the trailer. PedroDungeons1776 (talk) 19:00, 1 February (UTC)

Okay then edit the audio of the trailer and add those sounds. James Haydon (talk) 19:01, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry but that is not my area. PedroDungeons1776 (talk) 19:03, 1 February (UTC)

Okay then but you were able to add that first sound, unless you got it from somewhere else. James Haydon (talk) 19:04, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

That sound is easy to get, because there is no background noise at that moment. PedroDungeons1776 (talk) 19:07, 1 February (UTC)

Okay then that's the problem with this. James Haydon (talk) 19:07, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, but it is possible. I just don't know how to do it yet. PedroDungeons1776 (talk) 19:10, 1 February (UTC)

Okay yes its possible, you could just get the sounds anyway without having to edit out the background noises. James Haydon (talk) 19:13, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Okay, I'll try. PedroDungeons1776 (talk) 19:14, 1 February (UTC)

Just upload em here and ill judge. James Haydon (talk) 19:15, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, but can I upload in mp3 instead of ogg? PedroDungeons1776 (talk) 19:38, 1 February (UTC)

Okay, it's done, it is not perfect but it's the best I got. I'll do the same for the sounds of the Opening Cinematic. PedroDungeons1776 (talk) 19:57, 1 February (UTC)

Your time is about to run out! Upload them now! 105.225.45.220 12:07, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Why are you telling them to upload the sounds now? TheGreatSpring (talk) 12:09, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Because the background sounds needs to be removed! And upload archie before tranforming to arch illager! And more sounds! 105.225.45.220 12:13, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

What do you even mean? The page will never transform...Humiebee (talk) 12:51, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Not the page! The model before changed! 105.225.45.220 13:28, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

I am not understanding! What do the sounds and the model have in common? PedroDungeons1776 (talk) 16:53, 6 February (UTC)

Ok, during the Opening Cinematic Archie makes 13 different exclusive sounds, but they have a lot of background noise, who thinks we should add them now, but with the background noise and who thinks we should wait for someone to edit them? PedroDungeons1776 (talk) 11:32, 7 February (UTC)

I think they should still be added as placeholders of sort and then someone downloads those sounds and attempts to edit out the background noise from them. James Haydon (talk) 17:36, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Ok, I’m going to add them as placeholders. PedroDungeons1776 (talk) 19:29, 6 February (UTC)

Okay hopefully there's a notice for a better re-upload, don't wanna have sounds you can barely hear. James Haydon (talk) 20:05, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

There are some Ending cinematic sounds exclusive! 105.225.45.220 21:22, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, I 'm going to add them too. PedroDungeons1776 (talk) 15:14, 8 February (UTC)

Now it's time to remove Background Noises for exclusive Sounds! and make a model for Archie! (Before Transformed to Arch-illager) 105.186.88.135 08:34, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Can you all remove background Noises? And Create a model of archie before Transformed into arch-illager? 105.186.81.198 07:12, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

I can only create placeholder images and if I do that, the my image will become definitive, because it's not a Wiki priority. PedroDungeons1776 (talk) 11:22, 16 February (UTC)

Where is the information under the section Origin coming from? As far as I am aware, it is not from within the game. There is no reference to the source. --Ercerus (talk) 09:57, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

From the novel.Mr. trex 2021 (talk) 10:04, 4 July 2021 (UTC)Mr. rex

A redstone golem is separate than an Arch-Illager, so it makes sense to separate them. Softcode589 (talk) 04:20, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Technically the Arch-Illager created the Redstone Golems, but you have a point, because the Redstone Golems are a mini boss and a mob in Minecraft Dungeons, Kid Of Ender (talk) 23:16, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, I messed up on the punctuation on the panel above. I’m typing this using touchscreen, so messing up on easy punctuation is really easy. Kid Of Ender (talk) 23:18, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

This article managed to go unnoticed for almost a entire year, having two maintanence templates that aren't even used correctly. Even when it was featured, in this exact diff, it still had the giant {{wip}} notice. This is enough to contradict the selection section of MCW:FA, where it states that it must not have maintenance templates. Therefore, I propose to defeature this article and other pages that contain similar problems. – RedX ^{👁 Image}
16:29, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

Right underneath the bullet point list, it says it's more lax for spin-off namespaces 👁 Image
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16:31, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

{{Character tabs}} in its current implementation looks really bad with the three buttons just sitting there disconnected in the page‘s body. As far as I know a tab bar like this is exclusively used for this article, so is it really needed? Removing it would make this page more consistent with the rest of the wiki.

One possibility would be to replace the tab bar by adding short Story and Gallery sections in combination with {{Main}} to link to the subpages. As subpages already link to the parent page a reader can easily leave the subpage without the tab bar.

If a tab bar is really deemed necessary, it should at least be redesigned to fill the whole width of the text body and to appear more subtle (like on the Ace Attorney Wiki for example) — 👁 Image
Delycache ^{(Talk | Contributions)} 12:29, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

I have added the template to the other pages assuming it's a common practice, and I think it doesn't feel right to have them missing other than the main character page. The template was added by QwertyLilley after Forum:Spin-off style guides concluded and MCW:SG/D is established; Mudscape have removed them previously from the page^[1], and notably the Dungeons Style Guide^[2]. Otherwise, I see no harm in including them, as they are subpages discussing the same subject but in different areas, adding short "Story" and "Gallery" sections I think would undermine them being their own subpages. A quick redesign similar to Tutorial:Advancement guide (perhaps more minimalist using tables markup) would fix them looking out of place. Outrowed (talk) 13:36, 26 February 2026 (UTC)

I think even something like the advancement guide header is still too much. I guess anything more than simple outlines feels too overloaded and draws the attention away from the article content. -- 👁 Image
Delycache ^{(Talk | Contributions)} 21:29, 26 February 2026 (UTC)