Optional: cut down on the number of references in general. If we have the minecraft.net article mentioning something, we don't need to quote all the accompanying tweets as well.
👁 Image Support: removing the newlines, specifically because the original message is still captured correctly with a single line. --Simanelix(T|C)15:30, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
👁 Image Slightly oppose: removing the tweets. Some of the tweets are un-necessary, but the 15 YA page still include them. Maybe a tweets subsection of the references would be good. --Simanelix(T|C)15:30, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
👁 Image Strong Oppose: References should be accurate in text and formatting. We don't change quotes, so we shouldn't make tweets inaccurate. I only support having no references in the gallery sections if those references are already on the image file page.Drour1234 (talk) 16:13, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
I 👁 Image support making a template for a collapsible box that surrounds each tweet if you want to complicate things like that. --Simanelix(T|C)16:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
👁 Image Support That is certainly a way better solution than removing them. I will re-add the references with the newlines back onto the page. You can then add in your solution to some of them. After which, I will help out with that once I study how to do it from how you do it.Drour1234 (talk) 18:31, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Did you read my arguments about how Wikipedia references tweets? They don't require newlines and they allow you to only include particle tweet contents. — Misode (talk) 16:43, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
We don't edit down quotes from the Minecraft Dungeons and Minecraft Legends books. The twitter posts are quotes. They should not be edited down because it makes the reference section bunched up and cluttered up. A solution should be to have a clear divider of some sort between each reference.Drour1234 (talk) 19:08, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
👁 Image Support removing newlines, simple formatting change that doesn't affect the actual content of the tweet. 👁 Image Support only quoting the relevant part if the tweet is long, or talks about multiple unrelated topics. 👁 Image Neutral reducing references, although removing them from the gallery section is fine as the file pages already have references.--Capopanzo (talk | contribs) 19:18, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
👁 Image Support - I think it makes sense to use the Wikipedia standard here, it has precedent and removes bloat. I'm not sure about removing references in general, that seems like a beast of its own. But I absolutely agree with cleaning up these references, we are not an archiving project and don't need to bother, especially when others already do so. - BD (talk) 01:54, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
👁 Image Oppose removing references just for the sake of removing them. Tweets that are entirely redundant because everything they mention is also on a minecraft.net page don't really need to be kept though. I am unsure on newlines – I don't see there being any need of removing them, and preserving the original formatting would probably make individual references easier to read (and what the section as a whole looks like is not really that important, as it's not meant to be read like the article's main text). However, the fact that references use inline formatting is a valid argument, and newlines are not semantically significant here, anyway. -- mschae23 (M_S_72 | talk) 22:15, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Sniffer Wasn't Here is splitting subsections into "Collaborations" and "Other". I'm just wondering what everyone else thinks of doing this? I think that while it makes sense for May 15, for all other days there's not going to be enough news to warrant the further sections, and it'll just bloat the TOC and make things messier. So maybe we could just have it for only May 15 and not for any other day, unless another day happens to have tons of news like May 15. - Harristic / Talk👁 Image 13:09, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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Anyone else think that there are too many logos on the page? Seemingly every possible combination of orientations and image compression is on it right now, complete with names. I already uploaded a copy of another logo myself, and I have no clue how it could be added with how bloated the section already is. Realshow19 (talk) 15:37, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Definitely too many IMO, plus the one who is uploading them I’m sure is using AI to upscale them. BDJP(t|c)15:43, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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I realise that "15th Anniversary" isn't the official name of the event itself, the event is rather consistently just called "15 Years", and this page is about the 15 Years event that's happening over 15 days, not just the anniversary day itself. I'm making this a talk discussion because I have a feeling there could be good arguments against renaming it, though I'm not sure off the top of my head. So, I propose and therefore 👁 Image support renaming this page to "15 Years". Because this is the name plastered all over marketing, I feel like more people would be searching this, though either way we'd have the redirects in place, Fandom doesn't have this page. - Harristic / Talk👁 Image 09:16, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
👁 Image Neutral. The event is sometimes referred as "15th Anniversary". The cape is called the "15th anniversary cape", so it's not always referred as "15 Years". HepiChestCow (talk) 12:11, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
The event's logo that they have plastered everywhere says "15 Years", so that's why I'd say it's the main name of the event, and worthy of being the page's name. - Harristic / Talk👁 Image 12:37, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
👁 Image Oppose at the moment. If we have evidence of Minecraft/Mojang consistantly referring to this as "15 Years" in multiple places besides just the badge/logo I would consider supporting this change. -BrianGLHF (talk) 18:05, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
👁 Image Oppose per BrianGLHF, I also think "15th Anniversary" works better as a title, and would be consistent with "10th Anniversary" in case we create a page for that later.--Capopanzo (talk | contribs) 00:27, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
From humble beginnings to a worldwide phenomenon, Minecraft's 15th anniversary fills us with joy and wonder. Here's to many more block-filled years!
The timeline is the first place where "15 years" is mentioned in a paragraph:
Celebrate with us
Time flies when you’re placing blocks. For 15 years we’ve built works of wonder and dodged creepers with a short fuse, placed beds on the Ender Dragon, and ventured far and wide in search of new blocks. For every year spent mining and crafting, our community grows larger and more diverse. We’ve accumulated at least a full stack of memories so far, so here’s a walk down memory chunk!
It's clear that "15 years" is not an official name for the update. The text is printed in the events icon as a short way of marking something as an official part of the event.
👁 Image Event icon (containing the text "15 YEARS"), for reference.
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👁 Image Opened presents in Minecraft Launcher for days 1-7👁 Image Opened presents in Minecraft Launcher for days 8-14👁 Image Opened presents in Minecraft Launcher for days 9-15
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I propose and therefore 👁 Image support that we limit the scope of this page to anniversary events that occurred from May 15 to May 30, and rename the page to "15 Days of Minecraft".
As far as I can tell, Mojang plans to advertise a lot of the things they do this year as "15 Years". Even after the 15 days ended, basically everything they've put out on social media has been labelled with "15 Years" (see their youtube channel for example). Currently, we list the animated series and minecraft monthly on the page because they were labelled with the 15 Years marketing even though they happened after the 15 days. If we want this page to be about the 15th anniversary as a whole, we can keep those there, but then we also need to list basically everything Mojang will do for the rest of the year it seems. I think "15th anniversary" is just too wide of a scope for the page to be that useful honestly, I think it's a lot more likely that people want to know about the 15 days anniversary event rather than everything that had the 15 years label slapped on (most things that will happen this year).
👁 Image Support limitation of scope, but 👁 Image Oppose rename. That's the name of the event, and the fact they put it everywhere is something we shouldn't care that much about. TreeIsLife (talk) 13:50, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
We shouldn't care about the actual name is? That's not really an attitude a wiki should be having. 15 Days of Minecraft is a rather simple and descriptive name, not a poor name for the event at all, so I don't see why we wouldn't use the name if the scope of the page is the 15 Days of Minecraft. - Harristic / Talk👁 Image 13:56, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
👁 Image Oppose. We should document the whole 15th Anniversary. Thus page could be a general overview of the whole anniversary while a new page could be created to go in detail about the more specific 15 Days of Minecraft. We should not consider anything to be irrelevant to document.Drour1234 (talk) 21:45, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
>a new page could be created to go in detail about the more specific 15 Days of Minecraft.
That new page would be a copy paste of the current 15th anniversary page, but with the May 31 information removed. What would you then do for the new 15th anniversary page?
>We should not consider anything to be irrelevant to document.
Trying to apply vague statements like this universally is not a good idea I think. That is also the only thing in your reply resembling an argument, otherwise you have not explained your opposition. - Harristic / Talk👁 Image 22:39, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
The new page would not just be a duplicate of the current page because the current page would be revised to be a general overview and would not look like how it does now.Drour1234 (talk) 00:34, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
👁 Image Comment. Given that it appears everything marketed this year will feature the 15th anniversary logo (e.g. the Tricky Trial update, some episodes of the "ALL ABOUT" series, etc.) despite not always being relevant to the anniversary, we indeed better limit the scope of this page. Otherwise, by the end of the year, this page will just be "everything that happened in 2024 from May". Thought it makes me wonder how some of what appears to be part of the 15th anniversary but has not been part of the 15th day celebrations would be documented? Some content, such as the Netflix series has it own page which is in Category:15th Anniversary, but what about content that doesn't have it own page and most likely won't? (e.g. that action figure or these mattel figures; both promoted as part of the anniversary and relevant to it)? - Zamburger (talk) 23:40, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Those two examples should be documented on action figures. But I know those are just examples, and there's probably some stuff that doesn't have a home on this wiki right now. While I generally think everything can find a place on the wiki if we try, pages that document everything that happened in a year could be useful to make sure everything is documented somewhere, I just really don't want this page to be that kind of page. - Harristic / Talk👁 Image 23:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
There has been some things this year that has not been part of the 15th Anniversary. Also, we cannot assume that everything still yet to come this year is part of the 15th Anniversary. Regarding the action figures page, that should probally be split into differant pages because it may just get very long as the years go by and more action figures are released.Drour1234 (talk) 00:34, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
Even if we assumed that nothing was labelled as 15 Years from now on, I still think there has been too much non-15 Days of Minecraft stuff labelled as 15 Years for it to be useful for the page to be listing every tiny part of it. If we want an archive of everything that happens in a year, that'd be cool, doesn't need to be this page. Also talk about splitting action figures on Talk:Action figures, it's unrelated to this. - Harristic / Talk👁 Image 19:52, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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