Talk:Music Disc

Hello, someone edited the History portion of this page recently, and added this note for the Java edition:

• "Music discs will now gain both skeleton and stray while shooting in arrow with fire projectile through TNT explodes with creepers"

However, when I lined up a creeper and a TNT to explode at the same time in my game, and fired a disc towards them (using a dispenser) and shot an arrow at the same time as their explosion, the disc did not, in fact, gain a Skeleton and a Stray. The disc, in fact, was destroyed in the explosion. Can anyone verify that the above is an actual true statement?

Perhaps it means when a skeleton or stray shoots it with out actually killing the creeper but causing it to blow up there is a bug where a 𝘮𝘶𝘴𝘪𝘤 𝘥𝘪𝘴𝘤 is gained? --Awesomedragon29 (talk) 13:26, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

I found that if you change the length of the track 11 using "PAL frames (25 fps)" format with the numbers 12418 the new length of the track will be 8 minutes and 17 seconds , which is equal to the Dreiton , from Minecraft Volume Beta , the same volume for track 11 . This should be added to the Trivia . -ErikAxe-ErikAxeReal (talk) 12:28, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

So lets see if I understand you: If you modify one of the games assets using a contained number, it just happens to line up with the length of an unrelated track. That does not seem worth noting to me, as it requires modifying the resource (in a somewhat obscure way) and the outcome is hardly notable. –KnightMiner ^t/_c 03:32, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

no. it doesn't. it just enhances the signiture and shows the end portal room of a stronghold

and also they arnt unrelated, 11 and 13 are the only number based music discs in vanilla –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Selene011 (talk • contribs) at 8:37, 12 August 2015 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

Hey, everyone! I found something interesting out...Disc '11' is a Easter Egg created from Mojang. When you convert the .ogg file into wave and you look at it in a spektrogram,

A image with Steve and The Number 1241, get created. Interesting, right? What the number 1241 stands for, i don´t know, but i will write it in here when i found it out! (91.52.28.93 12:13, 16 October 2015 (UTC)) - Signing: ~~~~

Hey! You can read more at Easter_eggs#Disc_11. – Sealbudsman ^talk/_contr 15:07, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

I was playing Minecraft Win 10 Edition, and when I got a skeleton to kill a creeper, the creeper dropped the disc 11. Both mobs were in water when the skeleton killed the creeper. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 99.228.185.158 (talk) at 23:08, 31 March 2018 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

How is that an error on the wiki? Everything you said sounds like normal behavior: the skeleton killed the creeper and it dropped a random disc. –KnightMiner ^t/_c 23:48, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

I just heard Madonna's "Paradise" (from "Music" album), and part of that song sound similar to part of warp. The question is: I'm just a fool or maybe it is true, that it's really similar? NTBG (talk) ^{Sysop on Minecraft Wiki Polska} 11:10, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

It is well known that Chirp uses an Optigan sample, but the songs Stal and Mellohi also contain sample loops from a Mellotron. Listen to Afro Cuban and Slow Waltz https://www.nordkeyboards.com/sound-libraries/nord-sample-library-20/sound-collections/mellotron-master-tapes/rhythms-fills-mk-ii. The parts that appear in Stal are actually in this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DOFLrJBhaow&t=44s. Tweer64 (talk) 04:19, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

--== HEROBR- ==

I remember watching a video where a YouTuber plays 11 and 13 at the same time, in the end a voice yells "HEROBR-" before abruptly stopping. Think this is an easter egg? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.149.47.237 on 01:28, 19 March 2020

Seems more likely that this was added to the video as a joke by the youtuber. Roady1990 (talk) 13:42, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

It says that the tracks by C418 have been shortened to thirty seconds due to an agreement with the composer. Where can I find information about this agreement?

I found a music file called, Where Are We Now.mus it has no music either is it talked about much. i couldn't find any programs to open it too. -12:18 12/2/2020

Does anyone know where to find the Twitter posts mentioned in this video around 14:28? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj1PQzxPzPk According to these, either C418 or an enderman was the monster in disc 11. Yekulten (talk) 11:12, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

soooo lm broken with the disc but one disc scary me is disc 11 ... but l can't listen this disc 11 so scary this disc ... lm do know this disc and lm is very not done today ... pls can l l know this disc 11 pls ... how disc 11 so scary ... bye ....___@cat_game___

We need to split a section and merge it into Music Jshshsheyeheheheh (talk) 23:49, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

How is otherside "dark and sorrowful"? – Unsigned comment added by LarryZZQ0 (talk • contribs) at 17:09, 28 January 2022 (UTC). Sign comments with ~~~~

I don't know if this is intended but otherside isn't listed in bedrock loot tables.

Under Obtaining / Chest loot it says that on Bedrock Edition you can only get Otherside from Ancient Cities and Strongholds, but at -3662, 6, 3310 on seed -3761802378302888379 I just found Otherside in a dungeon. I don’t have any idea on the chance of that happening, which is why I didn’t edit this myself, but maybe someone should look into that.

I have checked the game files and you are right, thank you for letting us know and providing all of that information. --MetalManiacMc, French Minecraft Wiki Administrator 07:39, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

As described in the Unlocking section of the Vault page, "In Java Edition, each vault keeps track of up to 128 unique players that have opened it. If the list of players is full and another opens the vault, the new player is added to the end of the list while the first known player is forgotten and becomes able to open the vault again. Because of this, any item dropped by vaults is functionally renewable with enough players."

Therefore with 128+ players, Precipice and both versions of Creator are technically renewable.

BusterBlock402 (talk) 10:20, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

A renewable resource (as opposed to a non-renewable resource, or finite resource) is a resource that can be recreated indefinitely in Survival. In the case of music records, it is renewable but not infinite — Hoangminhle2011 — Shape our Wiki 10:29, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

See Minecraft Wiki:Forum/Renewability and vault  Nixinova   T   C   10:35, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

25w20a added new music disc “Tears” by Amos Roddy Oshen2009mc (talk) 14:13, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

That is an April Fool's joke and as such does not belong here. BDJP ^(t|c) 19:52, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

I mean we could have a simple mention of it in the trivia section, like in other pages. ManosSef (talk) 21:53, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

I was using the Betacraft launcher and I noticed that loading version inf20100611 (1.128) would download the 10 music discs to resources and version a1.1.2_01 would download 11. I wanted to ask if that is reliable and if so it should be added to the history section of the pages. Daliusite (talk) 08:59, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

I propose to rename all individual music disc pages to just the name of the music disc. If there's a name conflict, it should be a suffix "(music disc)" instead (or "(Music Disc)", not sure).

Examples: "13", "Tears", "Blocks (music disc)", "Cat (music disc)", "Far"

For the music discs that have a lowercase name, the magic word {{DISPLAYNAME}} can be used.

Reasoning: The "Music Disc" prefix serves no actual function, makes it slightly harder to find the pages, and the prefixed title isn't proper English. | violine1101 ^(talk) 08:48, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

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 Strong support to change all music disc names to <NAME> (music disc). This is exactly how they handle these things on Wikipedia, and the (music disc) should be lowercase. Also, I think every music disc should have the suffix, even the unambigious ones. cat and blocks are obvious, but discs like far, Creator, Tears, and Precipice can also be somewhat ambigious. There are hardly any discs that are clearly not ambigious, so just add (music disc) to every one for consistency. MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) 👁 Image
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Hm, I'm not sure if names like "far" and "Precipice" could reasonably lead to any other page. Just having a hatnote at the top of the page would still solve this issue just as it does now. E.g. far already redirects to the music disc, so what the page is called doesn't really make a difference for that.

Besides, the vast majority of discs don't have an ambiguous name at all.

Also note that "Creator (Music Box)" would look like "Creator (Music Box) (music disc)" with your proposal. | violine1101 ^(talk) 17:29, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

Yeah that last one is confusing me too, idk how we should deal with that. Far can refer to Far lands or terms of distance, and Precipice, well, never heard of that word but it means something like cliff, also a thing in Minecraft. MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) 👁 Image
17:32, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

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 Neutral on this change. "Music Disc <song title>" is pretty close to how the Music Discs are named in game, where all have the same item name of "Music Disc" and only the description containing the song name differs. But I can see how this would be reasonable. Sightnado ( talk | contribs ) 17:25, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

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 Weak oppose The articles primarily describe the music disc items, not the songs. Articles about the items should be named after the in-game name of the item. In this case the name is just "Music Disc", which obviously doesn't work, so the next fallback is the item id, which is e.g. minecraft:music_disc_cat. I prefer that over using the full item name, which would be e.g. "Music Disc - C418 - cat" -- jacobsjo (talk) 12:50, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

Sure, but arguably this article is not about the item, but a music disc variant which is called "Cat", "Far", or whatever. What purpose does the prefix "Music Disc" in the title actually serve? Note that the introduction of the music disc articles doesn't even follow the title. The full name of the Music Disc is already in the infobox anyway.

And also if the article "primarily" describe the items, they are also about the track as a whole. So wouldn't a fitting title take both into account? | violine1101 ^(talk) 16:23, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

I wouldn't be opposed to make the track the primary thing described by the articles, but then the "Obtaining" and "Usage" sections don't make sense as they are now. Maybe moving them into a "Music disc" section would make sense? -- jacobsjo (talk) 17:16, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

Just to clarify - I think that the title should not only reflect the primary thing described by the article, but the article overall, including the non-primary topic. Most people likely don't even separate the two, and the track is just the same thing as the item.

I don't think changing the focus of the articles is necessary; if anything I'd put more focus on the item and change the introduction to something like "cat is a music disc that plays a track by C418 of the same name" rather than the current "'cat' refers to both a song composed by C418, and a music disc [...]". But that's not part of this discussion.

The "Music Disc" prefix is just annoying and serves no actual purpose. I'd change it to a "(music disc)" suffix, because then it solves this issue:

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But the "(music disc)" suffix is unnecessary if there's no other pages the article could be confused with. | violine1101 ^(talk) 17:49, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

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In this case my opposition to the name change stands. The item is not called "cat", cat it only the last word in subtitle. -- jacobsjo (talk) 18:23, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

The music disc item is not called "cat", but the music disc variant is called "cat". The article is about the music disc variant; music discs in general have music disc.

Again, what's the actual point of following the name of the item this closely? | violine1101 ^(talk) 18:46, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

We're going in circles now. It the article is about the variant (internally "jukebox song"), then a section called "Usage" doesn't make sense, because its about the usage of the music disc item and not of the jukebox song. -- jacobsjo (talk) 19:07, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

Well, it's just about things that are specific to (the usage of) a music disc with that specific variant. I fail to see how changing the title of that article would make that section not make sense. | violine1101 ^(talk) 19:10, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

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 Neutral - the simpler names should definitely at least be redirects, which should largely solve the discoverability. Mudscape 👁 Image
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These redirects already exist. My main point isn't that these titles are incredibly awkward and serve no actual purpose. | violine1101 ^(talk) 18:45, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

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 Support The prefix really is annoying. Realshow19 (talk) 13:20, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

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 Weak oppose because the articles are about an item, which happens to be a type of music disc.

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 Question How would the items be referred to in other articles? For example in Ghast#Drops? -- jacobsjo (talk) 19:29, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

That's a good question. I think it should probably be either "Tears (music disc)", "Music Disc (Tears)" or just "Tears" in tables, but in prose it's easiest to just phrase it like "the ghast drops a Tears music disc when killed with a ghast fireball". | violine1101 ^(talk) 17:55, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

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 Oppose In my opinion, moving the music discs will only create more confusion with the titles and other items with the same name and will change almost nothing. Firstly, the titles as they are follow a pattern, and moving them will generate titles even more ambiguous than they already are, and "Music Disc x" is not much different from "x (Music Disc)", and in fact, it is not possible to use lowercase letters at the beginning of the title without the magic word. One solution to solve the problem in the image above is to simply use {{DISPLAYTITLE:<name>}}, which will simply make the title the same as the disc's name without causing so much confusion, and unambiguous disc name redirects already exist.
  — Herobrine222376 ^{( Talk | Contributions | pt-br )} 22:37, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

But what's the point of using the DISPLAYTITLE magic word to change the title when the page could just be moved instead? | violine1101 ^(talk) 17:56, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

This means there will be no confusion with the article titles in the links/URL, and the name of the disc will still be visible with many browser tabs open.
  — Herobrine222376 ^{( Talk | Contributions | pt-br )} 18:23, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

What would the confusion be with the article titles in the links/URL? To solve that, redirects exist. | violine1101 ^(talk) 19:26, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

The confusion I explained in the first comment about the ambiguous titles and that they would not be standardized, unlike the "Music Disc" prefix currently used. And yes, redirects solve the problem, but in research and when writing the pages, the titles look better the way they are.
  — Herobrine222376 ^{( Talk | Contributions | pt-br )} 19:29, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

But I'm proposing a different standardization - it'd be exactly as standardized. And the old titles would of course still redirect. | violine1101 ^(talk) 19:53, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

But these new titles would create confusion with links, such as the {{InvLink}} template, and "Music Disc <name>" is the closest name to the game name that would be good to use, and is the item ID. The DISPLAYTITLE would only solve the problem you mentioned above (file link), and the titles that don't conflict with other resources already have redirects to solve the search/links problem on the pages.
  — Herobrine222376 ^{( Talk | Contributions | pt-br )} 20:00, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

I don't see a reason for why InvLink would need to change. This proposal only affects the page title, not anything else. | violine1101 ^(talk) 22:16, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

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 Not weak but not strong support – I think discs like blocks and cats should stay at Music Disc <name>, I'm partial to those titles and prefer them to <name> Music Disc, I'd also keep 5, 11, and 13 like that because I think titles that solely consist of numbers can be confusing. Lava Chicken is a bit of an edge case but I don't think I'd move it to just "Lava Chicken" and move the DAB to (disambiguation), don't think the disc can be comfortably called the primary topic. For other ones like stal, mellohi, and Pigstep, I think moving them is a good move. I mean, the first lines of each article say they refer to the songs too, not just the discs. I think Creator would need a hatnote linking to both the Music Box version and potentially Notch. 👁 Image
FireDragons52 09:05, 19 May 2026 (UTC)

At what point do we simplify the infobox to not list every individual music disc in seperate tabs?

With 22 music discs we are now one away from the 23 pottery sherds, and well past the 10 banner patterns.

I've always found it a bit odd that smithing templates (19) and music discs use seperate tabs for each item variant while pottery sherds and banner patterns don't, just using invicons to show them all.

Is it based on substance of each item in some way? For instance, all articles about dyes items and blocks have them all in the infobox. But I think there's a distinction there, White Wool is a redirect to Wool, while Music Disc 13 is it's own article. So should we move to using invicons like pottery sherds or stay with tabbed images like smithing templates? 👁 Image
FireDragons52 09:00, 19 May 2026 (UTC)

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