Forum:Gallery subpages and potential other tabs

This has already been implemented in the Dungeons wiki style guide, but people have some qualms about this on the mainspace so I'll just reexplain it here. If a page ends up too long, such as a character having extensive backstory or simply a gallery getting too big, it should be made into a subpage. To keep track of these, the {{Character tabs}} template can be placed at the top of the page.

The template was made for character pages first and foremost, but it could be implemented on mob pages like creeper and villager to mitigate the long galleries, or simply manage existing subpages. This is a common fixture on wikis, I think it would be an easy addition personally. --Realshow19 (talk) 23:53, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

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 Support, but I think a gallery with "core" (i.e. important) images should remain on the page. Like, Cat could have a few renders, a couple textures, leave the Mojang images, a few screenshots, and a few "in other media" images, and all the rest could be moved to a gallery subpage, eliminating that horrendus table. 👁 Image
amethyst_hhh👁 Image
23:58, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

Yeah that's reasonable. Maybe for certain pages it could be one image per category. Realshow19 (talk) 23:59, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

I think more than one should stay, but for instances like cats, wolves, horses, and anything else that has 5 million variants they shouldn't all be there 👁 Image
amethyst_hhh👁 Image
00:03, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm all for having those images but they shouldn't take up as much space as they do. Realshow19 (talk) 00:07, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

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 Partial support, per Mudscape. I think that excessively large galleries should be split to subpages, but there doesnt need to be a button at the top. A simple "For the full gallery, see [pagename]/Gallery" hatnote at the top of the Gallery section would suffice. 👁 Image
amethyst_hhh👁 Image
03:27, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

You are really proposing two totally different things here. The galley subpages has its own forum already, which I believe has broad support. The tabs being at the top of the page is an extreme no from me. We are not a wiki for a TV show/comic/visual medium. We are for an interactive video game. The gallery is much less important than gameplay and it should not be placed above that. Gallery is not in the top 5 reasons people visit a page. Putting a large button above the fold for something that is usually very far down the page just doesn't make sense. Linking to the gallery sub page from where the gallery is now just makes more sense from every aspect. It's how every page is on the wiki. And since every page doesn't have a big enough gallery to warrant it's own page then it will create an inconsistent experience for readers Mudscape 👁 Image
talk 02:36, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

Galleries on this site are usually almost entirely composed of gameplay information like mechanic demonstrations and textures, I don't see why you think this is to make the site more like a TV wiki. On the contrary, many different video game wikis have done this, it's a pretty common fixture. If anything the fact this is a game wiki is a good incentive to have the gallery within reach, people will logically be looking for textures, or screenshots of specific scenarios. The inconsistency is fair, but I would suggest leading with that over a fairly subjective preference. Realshow19 (talk) 03:03, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

Honestly every example you linked makes me more certain that having tabs at the top that take you to sub pages is a bad idea. It looks bad and it's confusing creating a content directory in two locations (tab bar and table of contents) Mudscape 👁 Image
talk 03:19, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

Could you try to elaborate on the problems here? Just saying it looks bad doesn’t really mean anything, and none of these have the gallery in the table. They’re different pages, that’s the point. Realshow19 (talk) 03:24, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

Not having the gallery in the table of contents is exactly the problem. Right now you look at the table of contents and that tells you what the page has. With the tabs implementation you remove gallery from the table of contents. This means I as a reader now need to think for every single page "is the gallery in the table of contents or a tab at the top". This is extra mental load for readers for 0 benefit Mudscape 👁 Image
talk 03:28, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

Gameplay screenshots that help illustrate mechanics belong to the approrpiate sections in the article body (of course 60 screenshots of oddly genetated villages should stay in the gallery section/page). Raw texture files can be useful to readers, but they are data values-useful, i.e. they belong to the bottom part of an article and don't have to be "within reach". Overall, I agree with all the points brought up by Mudscape. What other wikis do is not really relevant, things need to make sense and be useful in the context of the Minecraft Wiki.--Capopanzo (talk | contribs) 03:21, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

Agree with Mudscape.  Nixinova  T ⁄ C  03:37, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

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 Strong oppose subpages for galleries in general, in all namespaces. Galleries should always be in the main article. If the gallery grows too large, it's often an indication that there's unnecessary images in the gallery and/or that the gallery section should be split up, either into sub-sections, or with the contained images being distributed among more fitting sections (e.g. images showing some gameplay interaction should be in the section describing that interaction), or both.

The tab thingy on the "Arch-Illager" page doesn't make any sense to me at all and should be burnt with fire. | violine1101 ^(talk) 09:45, 25 October 2025 (UTC)

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 Oppose for the tab template. If we really need a tab bar it should be redesigned to fit other article UI elements like infoboxes and the bar should at least completely fill the page‘s width instead of being left-aligned.

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 fine with gallery subpages for additional renders or texture files but those subpages should be linked in the gallery section with a simple hatnote. — 👁 Image
Delycache ^{(Talk | Contributions)} 13:05, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

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 Support, but it should be designed a bit better to make it fit more with the article (especially on desktop view) and a little bit smaller. Only use this for pages where the gallery is as important as the main content of the page though. Most pages with gallery sub-pages can have a well designed button at that gallery section (I don't like hatnotes for that purpose, it's ugly and easy to miss). MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) 👁 Image
13:25, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

So to evaluate this, it looks like the general idea is this:

• Galleries can get long and something needs to be done about it

But we disagree on these:

• Should it be split from the page or just shortened?
  • My personal stance is that splitting it from the main page, or just putting some of the less relevant or necessary images on another page, would be fine.
• If we do split it, how do we link it from the main article?
  • My personal stance is agreed with Mudscape. We shouldn't remove it from the TOC, and we should just link it from a trucated gallery on the main page.

-~- Nerdyguy2000   Talk   Edits  16:19, 26 October 2025 (UTC)