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Capitalization for other than article title re: edits in Lead
[edit source]Latest comment: 7 February7 comments2 people in discussion
The style guide says, "Content on the wiki in prose should be written differently from an article title. Specific capitalization guidelines apply to article content to make them follow consistency across the wiki." The idea is that anything other than an article title should follow the below table. The first sentence is clarified by saying that "article content" is differentiated from article titles. There isn't room here to interpret that there's a third category (i.e., stuff that isn't an article title but also isn't prose). These two sentences collectively are saying that the principles in the below table apply to writing other than article titles. This could have clarified that other categories were in mind (e.g., section titles, caption titles, infobox titles, bullets, etc.), but it did not make this distinction. Nothing in the caps section of the style guide delineates a different treatment for "other stuff that isn't really 'prose.'" Your thoughts? HolyT (talk) 07:24, 6 February 2026 (UTC)
- The infobox title is definitely a type of title and should be title case. The bullet points would be prose of they have a subject and a predicate, but the example in that leash know revert was just a list. Also sprite links should not be in prose either, so title case is fine where sprite links are appropriate. ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 07:29, 6 February 2026 (UTC)
- OK, I understand that an infobox title is a type of title, so in some house styles, it might be in title case. Given that the capitalization para in our style guide strongly indicates that it is carving out an exception ONLY for article titles (not section titles or other things that can be considered "titles"), I'd still say that our existing standard is that other "titles" should by default be in sentence case. I can leave that aside for future deliberation. But bullets are not elevated to title case in any English-language style guide or house style. To my eyes as a professional technical editor, it just looks jarring. There's no principle of style that elevates bullet points to title case for common nouns, as the items in question clearly are. Note that our style guide says, "Items should be treated as common nouns that should not be capitalized unless they start a new sentence." It doesn't say, "unless they are in bullets" or "unless they are not in prose" or "unless they are in titles other than article titles," etc.
- Sorry, after I wrote on your page, I realized that we had had a similar discussion several months ago that you wisely moved to the style guide talk page. If you'd like to do that again, feel free. Thanks for replying! HolyT (talk) 18:21, 6 February 2026 (UTC)
- Well, you can interpret the list in the bullet points as listing the titles of the page it links to, which the title itself is in title case. And if you think bullet points strictly should be sentence case, what about
{{columns-list}}? ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 01:44, 7 February 2026 (UTC)
- The columns-list shows the only multi-word bullet in sentence case. How is this feature used? Can you give me some example pages? Thanks. HolyT (talk) 07:17, 7 February 2026 (UTC)
- See Block ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 08:01, 7 February 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick reply and example. Ugh! That page looks horrible! It looks like "marketing copy," such as a brochure that advertises a product and writes everything in title case and all caps and uses all kinds of other non-standard, "shouty" typography to catch people's eyes and assault them with the highlights of their product. Our encyclopedia should aspire to a higher, more professional and consistent standard. The Block page is a great example of why we should be careful and thoughtful about determining and using consistent, encyclopedic standards. Naturally, this wiki is its own entity and doesn't need to match precisely anything else, such as Wikipedia or a printed book, but that doesn't mean that we should eschew all standards. HolyT (talk) 17:22, 7 February 2026 (UTC)
You could have moved the page back to the incorrect title, then moved it again this time supressing the redirect that way you didnt have to tag the page for deletion. Thats the "magic trick" I use :) 👁 Image
amethyst_hhh👁 Image
03:54, 19 February 2026 (UTC)
- Oh, I didn't realize that. Well, because I already edited that page, I can't move it back anymore (unless I then move the incorrect title to another page, which would have to be deleted anyways. ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 03:59, 19 February 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah, but now you know for future use :) 👁 Image
amethyst_hhh👁 Image
04:00, 19 February 2026 (UTC)
Hello, in java edition 26.1 you said:images are only added if its texture changed in the version;
At the same time, on the Bedrock Edition page, there are images or icons added for blocks and items like the noteblock and the stonecutter, even though there were no changes to their textures.
Can you explain why that is possible on the Bedrock Edition page but not java edition? AT (talk) 08:36, 20 February 2026 (UTC)
- I removed those images. I'm not sure why they were added, but it's been a de facto rule where version pages only add images for features only if their textures were changed or were added in that version. See Java Edition 1.16 for example. ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 08:41, 20 February 2026 (UTC)
- I've seen a lot of version pages with images for blocks/items even if their textures didn't change, such as Java Edition 1.0.0#Changes. I guess we'll have to remove them. –LauraFi - talk 06:16, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah. This seems like something that should be at MCW:SG/V, but isn't. ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 06:17, 21 February 2026 (UTC)
- Feel free to add it, this doesn't need a discussion. –LauraFi - talk 05:12, 25 February 2026 (UTC)
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Done. I also added that each feature should be named in bold as a pseudo-heading, which for some reason wasn't mentioned either. ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 05:18, 25 February 2026 (UTC)
- If a feature was removed, does it need an image? Java Edition Indev 0.31 20091223-0040#Removals. –LauraFi - talk 06:16, 25 February 2026 (UTC)
- I would think no, since there is nothing new introduced regarding the model/texture of that feature in that version, but I'm not sure. ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 06:17, 25 February 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'll remove them. –LauraFi - talk 06:23, 25 February 2026 (UTC)
Weakly powered redstone torches
[edit source]Latest comment: 3 March3 comments2 people in discussion
I still feel as though there's some context missing. I think we're both missing something. I want to know if the top part of the second image in MCPE-17909 happens in Java Edition (the image in question is "ScreenShot 067 .JPG"), and then I want you to show me the screenshot you took of it in Java Edition. Thank you in advance. Uono2 (talk) 10:22, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
- Never mind, you were correct. I misunderstood your edit. I thought that you were trying to say that the block next to it isn't weakly powered. I'll revert my edit. ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 10:34, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
- It's not your fault. That section had been there for around six months before I wanted to verify it. Have a good day. Uono2 (talk) 13:03, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
What are the numbers next to edit descriptions?
[edit source]Latest comment: 21 March3 comments3 people in discussion
I have seen lots of numbers next to edit descriptions. 6767a (talk) 01:49, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) You'll have to be more specific. Are you talking about stuff like the number in "Undo revision [number] by [user]"? -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 01:51, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
- If you are talking about the red/green numbers, they are the difference in bytes between this and the previous revision. ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 02:01, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
Here is the time stamp of the first look chaos cubed video for proof
[edit source]Latest comment: 26 March2 comments2 people in discussion
It's 4.41 Jaime-Spec MC (talk) 10:00, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
- Oh, I found it, here. Thanks! ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 10:03, 26 March 2026 (UTC)
Congratulations on 10^4!
[edit source]Latest comment: 5 April2 comments2 people in discussion
Congratulations on reaching 10,000 edits! You're officially in the fourth order of magnitude for editcount. Excellent work! -~- Nerdyguy2000 Talk Edits 14:48, 27 March 2026 (UTC)
- Congratulations! ~2026-CookieMountainWitch1582 (talk) 18:45, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
section created because other one got locked
[edit source]Latest comment: 29 March3 comments2 people in discussion
@MinecraftExp123 I clicked the link you provided and it said that the launcher is pirated. if it were to be pirated, it would've already been taken down by Mojang 6-7 years ago. It's not pirated if the original game is free ?its205 (talk) 12:32, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
- The launcher is operated outside of the US and thus not affected by US jurisdiction. Anyways, I'm moving this to my talk page as this admin noticeboard is for stuff that needs admin attention, and should not be cluttered with other discussions. ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 12:34, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
- ok ?its205 (talk) 12:36, 29 March 2026 (UTC)
Trick for finding YouTube video publish date
[edit source]Latest comment: 7 April2 comments2 people in discussion
I saw your summary in #3521593 on not knowing what the date is. I'm in +12-+13 so it's an even worse problem for me (>50% chance of the date being incorrect!). What you can do is view source / inspect element the page and then Ctrl+F for the year plus a hyphen. You should be able to find some string in the code that looks something like datePublished = 2025-10-30T12:34:56-06:00 as well as other metadata (off the top of my head). Nixinova T ⁄ C 02:54, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks! I used that to correct the date. ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 03:21, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
Splash "Mmmph, mmph!" description
[edit source]Latest comment: 14 April5 comments2 people in discussion
I can understand leaving it blank, but can we at least agree the comment left on the page is too harsh? "DO NOT add anything about the Pyro from Team Fortress 2; the phrase "Mmmph, mmph" is too generic to conclusively say it's a reference to TF2 without a source directly from a Mojangsta. Edits adding this without a source will be reverted on sight."
I don't know about you, but to me, that just sounds like someone getting angry about a short phrase in a video game, and the possibility - even if highly inconclusive - of the phrase referencing a character from another game. Can we at least agree that it's a bit much, mainly tone wise? Also, what even is a Mojangsta? RubberCrowy (talk) 23:47, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- Well, it's a comment, meaning that it's not shown to readers, so it doesn't really matter about its tone as long as it conveys what it was intended to convey. ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 23:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- Can we agree that it's a bit much, though? It's a short phrase in a video game, with no real barring on anything, so why does it sound almost like a company-warning saying "you'll be fired on site if you do this"? RubberCrowy (talk) 23:55, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- Thinking about it, all that comment does for me is discourage me from making edits! It's not just conveying info, but actively hindering the environment of a wiki! RubberCrowy (talk) 00:09, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- Okay, I guess the "on sight" part and others can be removed, but the caps should be kept for emphasis. ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 02:07, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
Referring to this edit https://minecraft.wiki/w/Tutorial:Transportation_methods?diff=prev&oldid=3600482
Just want to point out that it used to be standard to do double spaces after sentences :) It's from the era when everyone used typewriters, and is more readable. But it does trigger many people's internal spellcheck now (as it triggered yours), so it was a good edit, thanks. Nerefir (talk) 21:23, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
- That I am conscious of, as I have seen web pages written like that and Googled why. Also, that wasn't my spell check, but rather I actually just saw the error myself. Thanks anyways though. ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 22:54, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
- Ya, that's what I meant with "internal spellcheck", that you saw it yourself ;) Nerefir (talk) 06:12, 25 June 2026 (UTC)
- Oh, nice. I thought you meant the spellcheck on the device. ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 06:12, 25 June 2026 (UTC)
You undo my last edits, but now the reply option is missing from that topic on the forum page, which will make it difficult for other people to reply. -- 👁 Image
Dipanshu Sarkar (Talk) 02:58, 12 June 2026 (UTC)
- Oh, I didn't realize that. Please say that in the edit description in those edits. ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 03:00, 12 June 2026 (UTC)
I forgot to mention in my edit summary that providing the information is useful for showing just how large a Minecraft world is (i.e. bigger than Earth), so it’s genuinely informative as well as simply being an interesting curiosity. Axolotlmapus (talk) 14:06, 13 June 2026 (UTC)
- Then it does not belong in the Trivia section. wiktionary:trivia#English and MCW:TRIVIA both agree that the information should not be actual important info.
- Also, no, people can't just do the math to derive all info in the wiki. They would have to read the game's code, which is significantly different from doing math, as it is more about understanding how the methods work and require knowledge of Java, which by any reasonable definition of "doing math" should not include, since a nontrivial portion of the world's mathematicians do not know Java. ([citation needed] but this feels like common sense) ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 14:10, 13 June 2026 (UTC)
Why did you delete my post? ~2026-ForestRubyBasalt17260 (talk) 03:55, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- You are just advertising yourself to me in essence. I am allowed to remove topics within reason on my own talk page. ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 03:56, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- I wasn't trying to advertise. I was trying to be nice. It's okay if you didn't like it. I'll understand. ~2026-ForestRubyBasalt17260 (talk) 03:57, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- wiktionary:advertise#Verb, 1: "to give notice of something" and 2: "to provide information about a person or goods and services to influence others" is literally just that. Please don't like tell people about your Wikipedia account; this isn't social media and neither is Wikipedia (which you seem to be using it as such since all your contribs there are on your user page). ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 03:59, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- You know, some people - including me - can answer some questions if you need someone to. I was just giving you information of what I can do for you/someone else. ~2026-ForestRubyBasalt17260 (talk) 18:44, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
You have been given an award! This is to show appreciation for your work here.
Saying thanks for actively helping this wiki! 👁 Image
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04:58, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
On your revision of Transportation, there was no point of unrounding the value. It may be because of floating point imprecision. Sulfurcuber826 (talk) 10:33, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- Well, if it's the actual value in-game, it's more correct, even if due to floating point imprecision. ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 10:35, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
I don't think we agree on the definition of a dynamic list. To put this here: it's a maintenance template that adds the page to a maintenance category where people actively need to work on it. Which is quite unnecessary when it is just complete. It also misleads readers that it may be incomplete while it isn't. A template like this should only be added when there's an active risk of the list getting outdated, but pages like Particles and Splash are maintained very well and never outdated. MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) 👁 Image
14:10, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- And a page being "dynamic" doesn't warrant such a bloaty template when it doesn't mean anything, similar to adding a template for "long pages". MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) 👁 Image
14:12, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- I think the point of the template is that it tells the reader, "don't put too much trust into it because it could reasonably be out of date since this list needs updating every update/drop". I know this feels wrong but to me a "maintenance category" is just a category primarily for editors to maintain the wiki, rather than to maintain pages themselves. They can also be used by readers, e.g., Category:Upcoming. I just think the dynamic list would fall into such category, telling editors that after an update they should look at pages in the category to update them, as well as telling the reader that it is more likely to be out of date than regular pages, not necessarily that it is out of date. ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 14:15, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- Well, that's a good thing for lists of textures pages, which are really hard to maintain, but I don't think the Splash and Particles page fall into that category, and if they do, it's much more useful to add a specific template if it's missing info. For example, the only thing the Particles page is currently missing are the tree new leaf particles, which I'll be adding today or tomorrow.
I just think it isn't necessary when it's only outdated like 10 days of the year. MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) 👁 Image
14:18, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
- Well, Particles still has a bunch of
{{info needed}}s, and Splash is just a really long list that I'm not confident is entirely correct. Furthermore, semantically, those lists are no less "dynamic" than the list of textures are. Using w:Template:Dynamic list and Wikipedia's definition of a dynamic list at WP:Manual_of_Style/Lists#Special_names_of_lists as a reference, the particles do require constant updating to remain current as each update takes quite a long time given they're harder to test for in-game without checking the code ("constant" is less accurate here but this is a game with updates unlike in Wikipedia where any given day the topic can change). ‑‑MinecraftExp123(|contribs) 14:36, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
I'm sorry that I kept resending that post. Sometimes, I just want to help people. It's kind helping each other. And again, I'm sorry. ~2026-ForestRubyBasalt17260 (talk) 14:28, 25 June 2026 (UTC)