Talk:Blue Egg

Merge to the "egg" page

As our friend Mudscape said, it screams to start a discussion. I suggest merging this page and the brown egg page into the "Egg" page. The reasons are clear: the other eggs are just variations of the normal egg. Just as there is no separate page for each type of wolf, pig, cow or chicken. Lapis lo zoli (talk) 17:59, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Spelling error in translation. Sorry Lapis lo zoli (talk) 18:01, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

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 Support: I agree with this proposal, like you said they are just variants of the normal eggs. ESTEBAN1303YT (talk) 18:04, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

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 Support — The only difference appears to be the kind of chicken that hatches from the egg (and that lays it in the first place). — BabylonAS 18:06, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

I agree, they should merge, they work in the same way, just they spawn different chickens. 2607:FEA8:88C0:DC00:3E35:EF90:A4C5:69ED 22:45, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

How do you support it? 2607:FEA8:88C0:DC00:3E35:EF90:A4C5:69ED 22:45, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

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 Oppose - What would the resulting egg page look like? Notably the mob loot and generated loot sections. Do villages in different biomes generate different eggs? Do trial chambers generate with different eggs? How many footnotes and permutations are those sections going to describe just to avoid having multiple pages. I think combining the 3 types of eggs will lead to a harder to accurately maintain page, and a harder time for readers to find the information they are looking for. I'm open to being proven wrong, but without more knowledge of how the eggs are different in the final update I cannot recommend combining pages for something that mojang decided should be distinct items. Mudscape 👁 Image
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 Oppose merging given the general push for individual pages for most blocks and items. However, if you want examples of how a combined egg page would work, see Log, Wood, Planks, and Leaves. None of the blocks described on those summary pages have individual pages. Those blocks have different natural generation and generated loot. Some of the blocks even have unique mechanics; for example, bees can interact with cherry leaves and flowering azaleas leaves the same way they interact with flowers. Getting slightly off-topic, but I'm actually a bit surprised that those pages aren't listed on the DIG Project to-do list. If those pages aren't planned to be split, I guess there is an argument that some similar blocks or items should be merged. Rampage455 (talk) 19:05, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

These are also pages I would much rather we split since they are giant pages. They're not split because they managed to be more controversial than others like pottery sherd or flower etc. - Harristic / Talk 👁 Image
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I think Log, Wood, and Leaves are hands down the worst pages on the entire wiki. As Harri said, they are not split because at the time of the last discussion people were weary about if split pages were actually better for the wiki. Mudscape 👁 Image
talk 22:48, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Looks like the only differences are the foxes and the loot generated in structures. For the fox, the sentence can easily mention that this only applies to white eggs. The generated loot would list egg, blue egg and brown egg separately in the table anywhere. Here the main issue is the unfortunate naming of the normal egg, it would be a lot easier if Mojang were to rename them to "white egg". Anyway, this can very easily be cleared up with a single footnote. This wouldn't make it any harder to maintain the egg page. -- 👁 Image
MarkusRost (talk) 15:11, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

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 Oppose, what benefit is there to this merge? It would be completely inconsistent with the fact that other pages with no difference other than their obtaining are split, like Pottery Sherd. - Harristic / Talk 👁 Image
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I support. There is no problem with everything being on one page. Have you seen how big the villager's page is, for example? It's easier to make a page for each village separately, isn't it? But if that's how it will be, we will have to split many more pages of things with the same features. Unlike the villagers, the eggs have almost no difference. The difference is minor. Therefore there is no problem to make a slightly larger page with almost identical features. 37.60.47.204 19:15, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

The villager page is actually in the process of being split up because it is actually a problem. Large pages make it easy for things to fall through the cracks and become outdated. And they make it harder to find the specific information you are looking for as a reader. Mudscape 👁 Image
talk 23:04, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

You guys should also merge the “Brown Egg” page with “Egg”. 90.167.86.50 19:16, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

I think it is generally understood that Blue Egg and Brown Egg will follow the same outcome as one another in this regard. Mudscape 👁 Image
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 Oppose -Drour1234 (talk) 19:17, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

--Arina (she/her) 19:54, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

there is only one wooden door page. The others are just redirects ESTEBAN1303YT (talk) 19:56, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

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 Strong support assuming there are no differences between the new variants and the old egg. I would expect that there shouldn't be any and the generated loot and crafting recipe get updated (if they aren't already) to support all types of eggs (using an item tag). At that point the only "difference" would be that each egg gets laid by and spawns a chicken of the same color, which isn't actually a difference at all.

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MarkusRost (talk) 20:34, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

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 Oppose If pottery sherds get a separate page then eggs should then.

EDIT: Strays have different data values so it's fine for them to have their seperate pages. Mineifications (talk) 21:59, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Skeleton versions are very different from each other. It's not the same. Lapis lo zoli (talk) 22:41, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Different texture, different arrows. Not that much of a difference. However, strays or bogged are not skeletons with different data values, so I guess that's fair. Now that I think about it though I kinda want the egg pages to be merged. Mineifications (talk) 21:34, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

I'm curious to see what you have in mind for a potential single egg page. I feel that situations like this should be assessed on a case by case basis. Eggs are pretty simple and do not seem particularly complicated in most contexts. If they were all grouped on one page I think I would oppose the motion to split them up. -BrianGLHF (talk) 22:10, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

You say that the wiki tries to split pages anyway, and I have no problem with that. But there is still a difference between large pages that need to be split and tiny pages that need to be merged. You don't have to explain everything. because soon there will be separate pages for each skin armor color,😨 Lapis lo zoli (talk) 23:30, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

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 Support. All 3 eggs do literally the same thing. There’s no point making new pages for them. — 3A |  T  C  02:25, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

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 Support, but make redirect pages for the egg variants to the main Egg article. QuickWhitt7 (Talk) 03:06, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

of course. This page will become a redirect page if the pages are merged ThienFakeVN(talk|edits) 11:18, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

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 Support The pages are entirely identical. No point having these two split off.  Nixinova   T   C   06:47, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

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 Strong Support - All the eggs are basically the same with different textures and spawns different chicks. Doesn't make sense at all to keep separate pages for them. Those who are opposing, use some common sense guys. - 👁 Image
StizzurpXDD^(talk) 07:11, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

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 Soft support as there may be no benefit to merge them now that it's done yet there's no benefit to split them either. The only major differences between these pages would be 2-3 lines in the entire article (which chicken lays which egg, and which egg gives birth to which chicken); I see no downside in simply changing these lines in the Egg page. - Zamburger (talk) 13:06, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

Adding a more developed reasoning, mostly copy-pasted of what I said on Discord: Deciding whether a page should be split should be by determining what's the ratio "information specific to a variant / overall information". Taking the example of Sherd: a split for those makes sense cause most of the page would be taken up by a table listing where to get them, their IDs, and an infobox trying to include all textures and renders (everything else is objectively marginal in quantity and subjectively in usefulness). For Egg, it would only be a matter of 2 extra sentences and 2 extra lines the ID tables (the ratio "information specific to a variant / overall information" is ridiculously low).

Basically, as a reader, if i'm looking for eggs:

• If the page is split: being on a different page doesn't change anything; in the end the whole page but 2 words is similar
• If the page is merged: I wouldn't be bothered by 2 extra sentences and extra lines in an obscure section

As is, neither splitting nor merging these pages seems to present any benefit to readers; the former appears to be unnecessary. What would tip the scales in favor of merging rather than splitting is the fact that the eggs are treated exactly the same in every way (and that it is more reasonable that they will be for a long time than to speculate that they will eventually have fundamental differences), thus it would be more convenient for editors to group their similarities than to split them. Time will tell if that's true - it depends on whether Mojang decides to give these eggs more unique mechanics by the end of that development cycle. - Zamburger (talk) 14:48, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

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 Wait – we don't know if the eggs will be completely identical yet. To not waste any effort we should at least wait another two snapshot to be sure. GIM Dianliang233 (talk) 14:37, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

I don't think there would be a much change in the functioning of these eggs which will make them differ from each other. Waiting for two snapshot is feeling like stalling the merge for as long as possible. I won't oppose waiting to see if change happens, but two snapshot is an unnecessary stretch. One snapshot would be enough in my opinion. That would be the more efficient way of doing it. - 👁 Image
StizzurpXDD^(talk) 14:56, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

ok guys. A week has passed and there is a majority vote of 9 people who explicitly wrote that they support it. Compared to 6 people who wrote that they were opposed. What is our next step? Lapis lo zoli (talk) 15:17, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

The wiki runs on consensus, not majority. Personally none of my stated concerns have been addressed, so I must remain opposed. If someone can show a draft of a merged page that makes it abundantly clear to readers what the difference is between the egg types then I can reconsider my position. Mudscape 👁 Image
talk 15:23, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

I've checked all the three egg articles carefully and have come to the following conclusions:

• All the data's, which includes Obtaining through Mob loot or Generated loot, Usage as Crafting ingredient or in Combat, Sounds in Java Edition and Bedrock Edition, Data values which includes ID and Entity data in both editions of the game, Achievements, Advancements and even Trivia are exactly same, copy-paste stuff.
• The only things that would change when merging these three articles would be adding textures for both the other eggs as well which can be easily done through the animate template. An example of one can be seen here.
• (Optional) A sprite can be created which will represent all egg variants. This sprite will go inside the tables.

So, a very clear answer is—these eggs have basically no differences. What has to be made clear to readers is that they don't have any differences, instead of what differences they have. This can only be done when all the eggs have one page.

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StizzurpXDD^(talk) 17:20, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

y'all can take the spanish wiki page as an example. I focused on putting the 3 eggs on the same page with their data values ​​and recipes.

Also i made Any Egg for the inventory aliases ESTEBAN1303YT (talk) 17:26, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

You are missing the absolutely crucial distinction that Obtaining through Mob loot or Generated loot are not at all the same. The different eggs generate from the different chickens. You can have a warm chicken lay one billion eggs and you will never get a blue egg. How is this conveyed to readers? Chest loot also only (currently) spawns normal eggs, not blue or brown eggs. How is this conveyed to readers? If even the people in this discussion don't understand how the eggs are different how can we possibly inform readers about how they are different? Mudscape 👁 Image
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As of 24w06a, blue and brown eggs do not generate in loot chests. But that is the reason why we are waiting for a snapshot or two to see if this changes.

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‌In Java Edition 1.21.5​[upcoming], the chick variant depends on which egg variant was thrown, regular eggs hatch temperate chicks, blue eggs hatch cold chicks, while brown eggs hatch warm chicks.

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A line can be added before or after this that will tell the readers that warm chickens, cold chickens and temperate chickens lay brown egg, blue egg and normal egg respectively. - 👁 Image
StizzurpXDD^(talk) 17:43, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

In my opinion there is no problem to add more details about the original egg, even so the page will be too small. It is perfectly fine to write "a normal egg can be found in these and these places". It won't destroy the page and it's not a reason to worry Lapis lo zoli (talk) 20:08, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

Okay friends, I want to close the issue already and that we all reach an agreed and common result. That's why anyone who is against the merger should write their claims and I and those who support it will try to answer, and vice versa. Lapis lo zoli (talk) 14:24, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

My previously stated concerns remain unaddressed. I think a single page covering 3 different items is more confusing to readers, and no one has shown a combined egg page that accurately and clearly describes how the eggs are different. Mudscape 👁 Image
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 Soft Support I agree, they probably are eggs' variations. ThienFakeVN(talk|edits) 11:13, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

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 Oppose at least for now. In addition to the already mentioned arguments: While these items are new, people are very likely to want to look them up specifically. E.g. "I wonder if this shiny new blue egg does anything different than the regular egg". | violine1101 ^(talk) 14:37, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

But wouldn't the merged page answer that user question way better than the split one? The split article does not mention the relation to the normal egg at all, the user doesn't actually find out if anything is different or the same. (There isn't even a link to the normal eggs anywhere besides the merge notice.) Meanwhile in a merged article the differences would be clearly mentioned. -- 👁 Image
MarkusRost (talk) 14:55, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

Not necessarily. If everything's on one page, you'd need to read through it and scan for differences between regular eggs and the new eggs, of which there are some. | violine1101 ^(talk) 15:14, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

And with split pages you need to do the same but with both pages to compare them. Just looking at Blue Egg doesn't tell you anything about the differences unless you also read Egg (or have the whole article memorized). -- 👁 Image
MarkusRost (talk) 15:20, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

It is not the end of the world if the differences between the eggs are written on the fused page. In fact, it is possible to make both a combined page and separate pages for each egg, like the log page. I think this is a fair compromise. Lapis lo zoli (talk) 16:48, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

Who agrees with me? Lapis lo zoli (talk) 16:50, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

I agree with Markus, I have no idea looking at these unmerged pages what makes blue or brown eggs different. I assume the only difference is the color of chicken spawned but that is communicated nowhere on the page. A user will benefit far more from being told "chickens lay eggs, some are different colors, brown eggs do X" then by having separate pages where they are forced to read 3 articles to find that unique fact about brown eggs. –KnightMiner ^(t/c) 00:19, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

Actually I repeat myself. It is unlikely that such a small item would have four different pages (three for each type of egg and one page for all three). In my opinion, it is simple and understandable that the differences are so minor, that if you compare pages to brother Lapis lo zoli (talk) 18:20, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

A mistake on my part, sorry. I wrote that the log has a separate page for each type. Lapis lo zoli (talk) 18:17, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

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 Strong support Blue eggs and brown eggs are eggs, they spawn chickens. They just have separate item IDs. I see no functional difference on a quick search of the article apart from chicken color. In addition, the chickens only have 1 article for all 3 variants There is no reason these should be separate. If there is a reason to separate them later then we can separate them later but that seems ***extremely*** unlikely to me. –KnightMiner ^(t/c) 00:19, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

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 Support - It's really strange to split the egg page while we didn't split the chicken page. -- Leo768 (talk) 01:27, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

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 Oppose, different types of chickens and other mobs are merged because it is still the same entity with one translation key. For eggs each egg has different translation key even though are almost the same. Also can somebody give me a similar page where three of more items/blocks with different translation keys are merged into one page? Because I do not understand the logic why specifically this page must me merged. — 👁 Image
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MetroKopUA (talk) 02:13, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

Wool etc. -- Leo768 (talk) 03:39, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

Planks, Logs, Stained Terracotta, there are too many to list. Translation keys are a bad way to decide on whether we combine articles, you should decide based on minimizing duplicate information and helping the end user quickly identify differences between similar objects. –KnightMiner ^(t/c) 04:36, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

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 I'm not sure. We should wait, but for now they should be merged because they have no significant, current differences. But I'm not sure about the "what would it look like" argument, because there are several pages that are merged and this would be no different. I also think that the pottery shard argument isn't the best because the obtaining between them is very different. But it's still the same mob in this case, so...? -~- Nerdyguy2000   Talk   Edits  14:16, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

Look at the page of the egg for a moment, at the original page with the new versions of the eggs. My question is what's wrong with it?! Here, it is written in a detailed and understandable way about the types of eggs, and the page is much shorter than other pages. Please, only the consent of those who objected and the discussion is closed🙏 Lapis lo zoli (talk) 14:59, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

"the discussion is closed" but this discussion isn't closed? I was going to close this discussion but I think you should do it instead of me (also remove the {{merge}} template) ThienFakeVN(talk|edits) 10:16, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

He means, the discussion can be closed once those who object support it. — 3A |  T  C  12:51, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

Should we perhaps merge the variants into a section on the Egg page? -~- Nerdyguy2000   Talk   Edits  15:05, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

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 Oppose. While it is true they have very similar behaviors currently, for not saying the exact same, they have a strong similarity with smithing templates. I don't think keeping them separated would cause more issues for readers than combining all the info in a single page, for me having info split feels more like a book of info than what we have now, with a main page to describe common behaviors while still being unique enough to be showcased as teir own items rather than just variants. The fact they come from different variants of the same mob doesn't make them variants of the same item, but rather items that share the same behavior.

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They also are not generated naturally on any structure currently, so it could potentially be confusing to write "eggs generate in X structure" and have someone thinking it means all kinds of egg. Yeah, that sounds wrong and unlikely to happen, but knowing the Minecraft userbase, I would prevent this issue before it happens like with other blocks or items on the past.

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I don't know, I wouldn't mind a merge, if it ends up hapening I'll still edit the Egg page, but I think we really should use the wiki social media accounts to get reader perspectives, or take surveys like the one for the main page redesign. Many here are editors and many are long standing users, so we can't just assume what readers think. Before merging or keeping pages the same we should actually try to get readers to comment on this kind of situation, though I may be just overthinking. I'll accept whatever the outcome of this is anyway, it's all about consensus after all. -- Supeika (talk) 02:36, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

"Take surveys"? I don't think merging pages is a huge problem. Also, many of people who take survey are editors, and even normal readers may eventually become editors. I know we can't assume what readers think. These are just my predictions. 👁 Image
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I just threw surveys as an idea, I'm sure there may be other better ideas like using social media like Twitter or BlueSky which could maybe be more effective.-- Supeika (talk) 06:26, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

I agree with Supeika.Drour1234 (talk) 05:54, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

Smithing templates are not a correct example: they are found in very different circumstances and the amount of material combinations (for armor itself and the trim) are enormous for each, which would require gigantic galleries if we were to try showing them all. Besides, each trim itself has unique aesthetic value, whereas the only functional difference the eggs have are the associated chicken varieties, which, outside of appearance and spawn conditions, appear to be the same. BabylonAS 15:36, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

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 Oppose - As per Supeika's reasoning.Drour1234 (talk) 05:54, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

I'm a little fed up that we've been discussing this for about a month, I think we can close this discussion now, we just need everyone's agreement, anyone who opposes is welcome to look at the log page and see for themselves how terrible it is. There is no problem with us writing "a normal egg appears in villages, etc", I really don't understand why we are still on this stupid discussion, and if there are no conclusions soon I will just merge the pages without asking. As written in one of the wiki guides, just dare. Lapis lo zoli (talk) 15:14, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Minecraft_Wiki:Be_bold Lapis lo zoli (talk) 15:15, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

Hello, yeah it's taking a while to reach a consensus but that's okay. I'm actually the one who copied/adapted the be bold page, because I believe it's a very important mindset to have. But you also cannot override the consensus process.

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That is reckless. If I'm not wrong, there are 2 directors opposite your suggestion. You may face a serious problem if you do that. Even the MCW:Be bold page says "...but please be careful".

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15:31, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

NB: The fact that someone is a director (or admin) doesn't give their opinion any more weight than anyone else's. | violine1101 ^(talk) 17:35, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

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Actually, consensus is measured by points and not votes. So it's not really reckless to merge when must agree but a few people disagree because of personal preference. :) -~- Nerdyguy2000   Talk   Edits  23:21, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

It would be more ideal to keep them separate until a month after this update drop is released, then we can track analytics to analyze how many people do search for these egg pages individually. -- Supeika (talk) 23:59, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

I would have commented on this earlier if it wasn't because I was working on other pages on the wiki at the moment, and while yeah this topic has gone for a long amount for time, it is still worth discussing because each editor has their own preference and opinion about this. Until this topic is closed we should wait before doing something. -- Supeika (talk) 15:47, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

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The main issue I see with having separate pages, is that we can't have a parent page describing all eggs (unlike smithing template). We currently have Egg in a merged state as well as Blue Egg and Brown Egg for the specific variants. However to keep the pages actually separate we would also need Egg (white) for the old variant or Chicken Egg for the combined page (with Egg being the white variant only). Both of these options seem significantly worse than a merged page to me, considering the minuscule amount of differences between the egg variants. -- 👁 Image
MarkusRost (talk) 15:38, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

I'm fine with just having {{main}} on sections where the main egg page describes the shared behavior, to prevent full duplication, though the template could make us of a visual overhaul since visually it is just an indented line of text. Supeika (talk) 15:41, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure how that relates to the issue of splitting the white egg variant page from the egg group page. -- 👁 Image
MarkusRost (talk) 15:48, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

I meant that having each page only describing a single type of egg is fine for me, and linking to the main variant when needed. I don't really see a need to have an overview page like Chicken Egg because that is not an in-game term. The usage of {{main}} like it's used currently is fine for me, that's what I meant, and a redesign of the template is more of an idea to make it stand out more instead of just being text. -- Supeika (talk) 15:54, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

I'm still unsure how your comments relate to my mentioned issue on how to split the white egg variant from the overview page. Do you just not want an overview page? But then {{main}} couldn't point anywhere. Or do you just not want to split the white egg from the overview page? In that case why do blue and brown variants get their own pages? -- 👁 Image
MarkusRost (talk) 16:08, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

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 Support, the differences are minor and I think the egg page does a good job at pointing out the differences while keeping all the common information in a single page.--Capopanzo (talk | contribs) 15:04, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

I think that there is no need for them to be on separated pages if they just are variants of the egg and they don't have any special features. In my opinion it would be much better organised if they were on the same. Ilian (talk) 22:24, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Well, I think I'll close the weirdest debate in history by making some references. Tell me what it looks like. Lapis lo zoli (talk) 18:03, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

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 Oppose merging these pages. It would go against the conclusion of the DIG project. — Misode (talk) 18:16, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

So what do you suggest? We turn the entire page into a reference? Lapis lo zoli (talk) 21:28, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

That project could make an exception for the eggs. Or, you know, be closed. BabylonAS 12:09, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

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 Strong support - Unnecessary split of eggs. No new unique functionality of egg variants versus the normal egg other than it is a variant of the chicken. Delvin4519 (talk) 15:16, 29 March 2025 (UTC)