Talk:Glow Berries

I can see the reasoning behind keeping glow berries and cave vines on the same page, but should we change the name if we do? This would be consistent with the page for seeds and the wheat plant, which uses Wheat Seeds as the title. PegasusDust (talk) 20:37, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

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 Comment The page Wheat Seeds uses the name of the item as a page title. This is already the case with the glow berries page since glow berries are the item. This is also consistent with the Sweet Berries page. As such your request doesn't make sense as you are contradicting yourself.ChainofNothing (talk) 21:05, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

No, the item name is just "seeds," at least in Bedrock Edition. Anyways, I feel like there should be at least some mention of cave vines in the title of the page for convenience when looking up the block form. PegasusDust (talk) 21:09, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

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 Comment Ah, I undertsand the confusion. In Java, which is the standard for naming pages on this wiki, they are called "Wheat Seeds". As for the mention of cave vines on the page: "Cave vines" redirects to the page and they are described in the second line with the name even bold. ChainofNothing (talk) 21:20, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

That might be enough, though I figured I should bring up the question. Thank you for the information and opinion! PegasusDust (talk) 21:45, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

I think glow berries should be renewable because they can be grown. Glow berries grow on cave vines, and cave vines can be bonemealed to grow more berries. And bonemeal is renewable because it is made from bones dropped by skeletons (and dropped by fish). Hipposgrumm (talk)

How do you get cave vines in the first place though? (Single Biome does not count)Humiebee^{talk contribs} 18:32, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

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 Oppose for the same reason as Lava Bucket Blockofnetherite ^{Talk Contributions} 20:47, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

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 Pro as lava is now renewable -- the first obtaining is not an argument as everything need to be find first GuiTaek (talk) 22:00, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

A renewable ressource is a ressource you can get infinatly in a regular world. Nevertheless, this discussion is no longer relevant as Glow Berries can be obtained. The reason I'm posting this is to clarify your definition of a renewable ressource @GuiTaek. --- MetalManiacMc at your service fellow human! (talk) 09:03, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

@Ahh, so I revived an old discussion huh? I guess I understand now the point, thanks for the explanation GuiTaek (talk) 20:32, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

@SansIsFunny I think you found it in the whole chest, didn't you? In this table, as far as I know, this number indicates the number of items in one slot, so if there are multiple slots, where there are glowberries, then they stack of course. – Unsigned comment added by GuiTaek (talk • contribs). Sign comments with ~~~~

Yea, they were not in one slot.– Unsigned comment added by SansIsFunny (talk • contribs). Sign comments with ~~~~

so could it be, that the numbers are not conflicting with what you experienced? GuiTaek (talk) 20:32, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

I tried to add a note to the wiki regarding obtaining glow berries from cave vines when using silk touch. If you have a tool with silk touch, you will obtain a glow berry when harvesting the vine, even when there are no glow berries appearing on the vine. I tested this on Xbox and PC using the latest Minecraft 1.18.0. My change was instantly reverted as "not true." Can anyone else verify they do get glow berries when mining empty cave vines? Maybe this is something unique to Bedrock? – Unsigned comment added by 73.35.163.21 (talk) at 01:59, 4 December 2021 (UTC). Sign comments with ~~~~‎

I have added it back with a qualifier about being in Bedrock Edition. Amatulic (talk) 04:23, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

I am the editor that reverted your edit. I want to apologize for my arbitrary action, because I almost exclusively play Java Edition, and I know the Silk Touch trick on glow berries doesn't work on Java. I should have considered that you are talking about Bedrock Edition and might not realize it is a Bedrock-exclusive feature. I do want to note that it's better for you to use the qualifier ‌^{[Bedrock Edition only]} for features that you are not sure whether Java Edition has it. Windwend (talk) 06:40, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

I am wondering if this section is necessary, even after reading this discussion. I was under the impression that mining empty cave vines always drops glow berries, even without Silk Touch. This will require some testing to confirm, and this may be a Bedrock Edition exclusive feature. I feel like I read that both editions operate this way, though, and I'm pretty sure that Sweet Berries have the same mechanics as well. Maybe I am wrong, though, since i just read that page and it doesn't say anything about this. PegasusDust (talk) 18:36, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

After cutting the tip of a glow berry vine that was growing in front of my workshop(hippie cave, dont ask) I noticed that it grew back and moreover it grew even longer than before. After checking the age stat on the vine I noticed that whenever you cut the tip of the vine it will unreliably change the age of it, sometimes cutting it down from 25 to 3 or from 15 to 19. I am playing on java version 1.18.1. I would make a issue raport on the bug tracked but I don't feel like making a jira account just for one issue.

I would love if you could actually take care of the vines to make them grow longer and produce more berries but as it is now its just a weird bug with updating age on the other parts of the vine.

Remuluson (talk) 21:34, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes. In Bedrock Edition you can naturally have all but the top vine contain glow berries, just by pruning the ones that don't have glow berries. In Bedrock Edition you can't do this, and you need to use bonemeal in order to achieve the same effect. – Unsigned comment added by Simanelix (talk • contribs) at 03:06, 31 January 2024 (UTC). Sign comments with ~~~~

The data values table for Bedrock shows that the three Cave Vines blocks are givable, but they do not appear in the tab completion list when entering a /give command and typing them manually results in an "Unexpected" error message. The footnote for givable items therefore needs to be removed. I would do it myself, but I don't know where the {{ID table}} gets its details from and I'm not inclined to spend time digging into it. <rant>Isn't a wiki supposed to be editable by ordinary wiki users? I understand the need to make maintenance as easy as possible, but I don't think it should be at the expense of editors outside a closed circle of elites.</rant> – Unsigned comment added by Auldrick (talk • contribs) at 16:44, 6 September 2022‎ (UTC). Sign comments with ~~~~

I'm going to test this on Bedrock Edition real quick and see if you're correct. Also, modifying {{ID table}} is not very difficult. Just open the source editor to modify it. And check out the modeul's page, by clicking on {{ID table}}, in order to learn how it works. --Simanelix (talk) 23:08, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

The current trivia does not follow the style guide, specifically the point about not stating that a game element is the first to have a certain characteristic. Given that the trivia has already been removed and the removal was reverted by Misode (though for different reasons), I felt it would be best to ask here first. Kationor (talk) 20:59, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

I agree with Misode (implication: the trivia is relevant). I think the trivia should say "Glow berries are the only food item which is also a light source.

Similarly, chorus fruit is the only food item that is also a means of transportation.

And eggs are the only food ingredient which is also a weapon.

--Simanelix (talk) 21:10, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

I disagree. Every item in the game has some unique property, being the "only" item with that property. These properties don't need to be documented in a trivia section. If the property is relevant, it should be mentioned instead in the article body. If it isn't relevant for the article to mention different ways an item can be used (like food and weapon) then it isn't necessary to mention in trivia either. ~Anachronist (talk) 20:50, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

I agree Anachronist. We should avoid putting "only" information in trivia. Considering that the article already makes the 2 uses of the glow berry (i.e. lighting and food) clear, we don't need to restate that information in the trivia. A more interesting trivia would be something like "how many times glow berries have been shown in videos by the Minecraft developers", and even that is not a very interesting fact. --Simanelix (talk) 21:38, 30 January 2024 (UTC).

To add to my previous comment, there are countless useless obscure and factoids in existence, such as "the witch is the only mob that wears a pointed hat", "axolotls are the only mob that fight drowned to the death", and so on. One could come up with an "only" trivia for every item in the game. If it matters to gameplay, then it should be in the article body and not in a trivia section. If it doesn't matter to gameplay, and isn't particularly interesting, then it doesn't belong anywhere, not even in trivia. The bit about glow berries is obvious and need not be stated. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:09, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Look I know this has nothing to do with the point but iron golems do attack drowned. Kationor (talk) 22:37, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Yeah. The Iron Golem's page already lists which mobs it attacks in a clear table, so there's no point in making trivia on it. --Simanelix (talk) 23:10, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

In previous discussion people spoke about consistency with other plants. How all other plants work:

1. Set block
2. Wait
3. Mine the same block

and jump to step 1. Same mechanics don't work with glow berries. Also when I first tried to find out how they work it was really hard. I think splitting makes article less confusing. Miner (talk) 11:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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 Oppose splitting. I assume the proposal is for two articles, one about glow berries and one about cave vines. However, as this article explains, cave vines isn't a distinct thing in Java Edition. If Java and Bedrock start treating them the same way, then we could consider a split. Glow berries and cave vines are not like other plants. They are tightly interrelated and should not be treated independently. ~Anachronist (talk) 17:13, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

To keep it simple, it can grow as many as 25 - age blocks further, in the same way as kelp. Hxy123abc (talk) 03:15, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Which part of the page has incorrect color? If you mean the block distribution chart, their color is defined in the template, not here. Hxy123abc (talk) 07:14, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

The fourth row in the infobox says "Any tool": no matter what tool you use, it always takes 0.05 seconds to break and it always drops glow berries if it contains them. The cave vine plant itself cannot be obtained. MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) 👁 Image
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The page has been edited to clarify this a bit. You can use any item or bare hands to harvest berries from vines.--Capopanzo (talk | contribs) 09:49, 14 May 2025 (UTC)