Talk:Tiny Takeover

I don't know if we agree or disagree but there is a lot of issues recently with this when it comes to baby mob names.

Firstly most of you guys said that we used in-game baby names on it. However the Snifflet does not because it was never mentioned in the game, only outside the sources, so it's better to use sources from mojang articles and videos or the game itself, cuz otherwise it gets too confusing.

If the situation is keep coming back, Yeah... I don't understand right now which one is correct or not. Jaime-Spec MC (talk) 09:18, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

I think the boundary is that sniffers don't exist in real life and are totally unique to Minecraft, so their baby name is fine; on the other hand, cows and stuff exist in real life so Mojang doesn't determine their baby name unless it's in-game. However, drowned are also unique to Minecraft, so I'm not sure about that. ‑‑MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 09:46, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Note: This is actually mentioned on the style guide. Should the discussion be moved to MCT:Style guide? ‑‑MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 10:01, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

As stated by the style guide, we should only use what Mojang uses if they consistently use that name. Maybe "Gurgle" is not valid because it's just one social media post, not consistent usage, on Mcnet or official videos. ‑‑MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 10:03, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

"Snifflet" is mentioned in the description for the Little Sniffs advancements ("Feed a Snifflet"). --Capopanzo (talk | contribs) 11:50, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Yeah but still... Jaime-Spec MC (talk) 13:17, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/trails-tales-update-coming if you read this page you will see the word snifflet. It is on the official Minecraft website. Blah (talk) 07:25, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

There is an advancement that mentioned snifflet as well Jaime-Spec MC (talk) 09:12, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

@Jaime-Spec MC As the style guide says that animals should not use IRL names, I have reverted those changes. However, "gurgle" is still in discussion. ‑‑MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 12:02, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Let's wait and see when it comes to decisions. Jaime-Spec MC (talk) 13:18, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

please look at this https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/hostile-baby-mobs Blah (talk) 07:27, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

I think you forget the whole discussion and it was already decided. Jaime-Spec MC (talk) 09:15, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

Just read the style guide. The style guide states that we use names coined by Mojang for fantasy mobs, therefore we will use Snifflet, Ghastling, and Gurgle even if they aren't used in-game (only Gurgle isn't used). Otherwise we will only use the real life baby names if they are used in-game. Unless someone wants to propose that we use all real life baby names no matter what, there's no issues here. - Harri / Talk 👁 Image
13:21, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

For "Gurgle", I'm just not sure it matches the style guide's "regularly uses" part, as it seems to only has been used in the Mcnet article and the social media post. ‑‑MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 13:27, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

They have consistently used it since redesigning baby drowned, we don't need to overcomplicate it. It will not be used in-game because baby mobs only have unique subtitles if they have unique sounds. - Harri / Talk 👁 Image
13:36, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Well I think Zombie Foal and Skeleton Foal will be used here but this needs ongoing discussion. Jaime-Spec MC (talk) 13:39, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

But zombies exist in other media, and "drowned" is supposedly describing what happened to the creature. So a drowned isn't a Minecraft unique thing. It is a zombie that has drowned. While the name gurgle is the very undescriptive. Sorry, this just confuses me. Why is Mojang even calling them that? --   Simanelix   (T|C) 13:09, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

That is a bit more blurred. I can see how one can argue that "drowned" is a creature unique to Minecraft, as I don't think anywhere else is there a similar creature using that name, unlike zombies. ‑‑MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 13:14, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

I agree, also I think we need a discussion of baby names cuz this is getting more confusing. Jaime-Spec MC (talk) 13:37, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

No it isn't. I've explained it very clearly. - Harri / Talk 👁 Image
13:39, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

Honestly, I think following subtitles is very confusing. If anything, a chick is just a chicken. The name of the mob's spawn the is not obvious and relevant in my opinion. And this idea of a name becoming "official" because it subtitles is just confusing. Yes, or has some logic. But for a player, both names are equally logical. A lamb is just a baby sheep, and the in game baby sheep is the baby form of the sheep. There is an obvious duality where both names are valid. And since Minecraft doesn't have vanilla WAILA, and you can't really pick mobs up and place them down in Survival, both names really are equal.

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Why do we even have rules for things like this anyways? With solve things like the enchanting/ment take, it settled an argument, but with this it is just semantic fluff.

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I love semantics. But I hate semantics related to arbitrary rules that have nothing to do with player experience. At least in my opinion, the official rule fails to match up to player experience in this specific case.

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Is my perspective weird? --   Simanelix   (T|C) 00:03, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

Yeah... I remember tried this yesterday but it got reverted Jaime-Spec MC (talk) 00:15, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

As of right now, this is part of the style guide, saying that mobs with real life counterparts should not use the IRL name unless it's in-game. So basically if and only if it can be found in en_us.json ‑‑MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 00:50, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

I feel like you didn't read my comment. Anyways, I just think the style guide is irrelevant. Always have and always will. I only care what the guidelines are when it is relevant to me. I will still follow the rules, but I feel like the "in-game name" idea is just fundamentally missing the point of something. --   Simanelix   (T|C) 13:03, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

Oh. I guess I misunderstood what you were saying. I personally still think what the style guide is best is ideal, because when Mojang intentionally changed "Baby Wolf" to "Puppy" but not "Baby Sheep" to "Lamb", it may be showing that they intended the sheep to not use "lamb". You can propose another policy, but how would this be specifically defined? ‑‑MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 13:07, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, I understand. I'm pretty sure they changed the subtitles that they thought would be the most well understood. --   Simanelix   (T|C) 13:12, 14 February 2026 (UTC)

So um, do we have citations for every baby name where it is used in articles? Our baby names are "snifflet", "ghastling", "gurgle", "puppy", "kitten", and "chick", right? --   Simanelix   (T|C) 18:02, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

Don't forget Foal Jaime-Spec MC (talk) 18:07, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

No, these don't need citations because all of them except "gurgle" are used in-game. "Gurgle" only needs a citation in the Drowned page. --Capopanzo (talk | contribs) 22:37, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

Well, I think subtitles are a little obscure, so it might help to have a {{note}} that says "Baby name appears in closed captions / subtitles.". And for the snifflet it could say "Name appears in the "Little Sniffs" advancement an in closed captions / subtitles". I just feel like this would be more clear given how obscure the names are. --   Simanelix   (T|C) 00:26, 14 March 2026 (UTC)

Well it's certainly not needed for every single mention of those names. The note can be added in the respective mob pages, and that would be more than enough. --Capopanzo (talk | contribs) 00:38, 14 March 2026 (UTC)

Agreed, that subsection is an absolute mess. This page would benefit from a gallery subpage.

On FR we only kept the Instagram images and link to the Tiny Takeover promotional screenshots category for the few readers who wanna see more (fr:Horde miniature#Galerie) and its looks way cleaner IMO.

(cc @Realshow19, since you were the one advocating for gallery subpages IIRC, maybe you could use Tiny Takeover/Gallery as a way to experiment these?) - Zamburger (talk) 11:32, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

Or a user can just make a draft page. 👁 Image
Redstone Engineer (T/C/S) 16:54, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

Honestly, I think we just need to remove some images there. 👁 Image
Redstone Engineer (T/C/S) 15:00, 7 April 2026 (UTC)