Talk:Baby

Is this page really necessary? Breeding#Baby mobs already explains everything about baby mobs and lists all of them. This page is just repeated information. Rogerio980Pizzaa (talk) 23:54, 14 January 2026 (UTC)

This page is will eventually have info on everything about baby mobs, not just a list. I think it makes more since for baby mobs to have a seperate page, especially since mobs can spawn in other ways aside from breeding and some babies can't be spawned by breeding at all. CrockCraftMC (talk) 16:57, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

If it doesn't have info then don't create it. Replacing a redirect to an actual useful section with a stub like this is the opposite of improving content. Draft a page like this first. MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) 👁 Image
18:28, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

Why would this be needed? If people know what mobs can be babies then they know what mobs can't. 👁 Image
NmF (talk) 00:38, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

Totally uneeded cuz there is literally a list of mobs that have baby variants. Jaime-Spec MC (talk) 13:54, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

The game internally views them the same as small slimes and magma cubes. They do behave similarly to babies in certain ways but if we include them we should also include small slimes and magma cubes in some way. CrockCraftMC (talk) 16:22, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

Unlike slimes and magma cubes, small sulfur cubes can grow up. Catscratcher07 (talk) 18:34, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

While this is true, most hostile babies(baby zombies, piglins, etc) don't grow up dispite being babies. CrockCraftMC (talk) 18:42, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

Small sulfur cubes behave pretty similarly to growable babies (grow up naturally, can be tempted and fed, can be age locked), while small slimes or small magma cubes share nothing with baby mobs at all, neither with growable babies nor with monster babies. There's no reason to include them here. --Capopanzo (talk | contribs) 18:54, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

Once again, growing natuarlly, being tempted and fed, and being age locked are things that most baby monsters can't do. CrockCraftMC (talk) 18:59, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

Besides hoglins, none of the monsters grow up, and the only one that can be tempted is the zombie foal. Based on this, I'm not against listing small slimes and magma cubes on the page, since baby sulfur cubes should definitely be on the page, considering their mechanics having more in common with animals/villagers rather than hostiles. Rogerio980Pizzaa (talk / contribs) 19:59, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

Non-growable babies are still explicitly implemented as babies, and do share some features like pitched up sounds, faster movement speed and being able to be spawned using a spawn egg on an adult mob. Small slimes and small magma cubes simply aren't implemented as babies (they even predate babies as a whole) and share nothing in common with non-growable babies (other than being small I guess...). --Capopanzo (talk | contribs) 20:30, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

Also, the texture is currently unused but it's worth pointing out in Bedrock Edition there's a unique texture for the baby sulfur cube, like babies, unlike magma cubes and slimes. 👁 Image
FireDragons52 01:35, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant small sulfur cube, not baby sulfur cube👁 Image
FireDragons52 01:38, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

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 Neutral. Both your and Capopanzo's point seem valid. However, it somewhat feels unorthodox to include slimes and magma cubes as "babies". ‑‑MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 23:38, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

I'd say we should wait to see if Mojang refers to them as babies. TheCaptainYaya (talk) 23:41, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

Yeah that's probably the best idea. CrockCraftMC (talk) 00:29, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

I think the article needs a clear definition of what baby means, similar to how the articles for other mob groups like monster, arthropod, and animal lay out their criteria.

For instance:

• What makes small sulfur cubes baby-like and not actual babies (can even have the golden dandelion used on them) or just, their own thing (use the size tag like slimes and magma cubes)?
• What makes the small slime and the small magma cube not babies?
• What makes the small armor stand not a baby?
• What makes the small salmon not a baby?
• What makes tadpoles babies when they aren't considered the same mob as frogs?
• What makes baby undead mobs (+ piglin) babies when they can't be bred for and don't age?

One of the problems is that almost any criteria I can think of doesn't apply to at least one baby.

Almost every statement about behaviour or traits is either prefixed with "most" or "many" or ended with "except [this mob]".

All that is not to say I disagree with what's currently considered a baby and what's not, just that there isn't currently a clear, objective criteria on the page itself for what's considered part of the list and what isn't. 👁 Image
FireDragons52 04:01, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

I think that anything that is implemented in the code as "baby" is a baby, as semantically that's the only "official" definition. However, I'm not sure of "baby" vs "baby-like". ‑‑MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 10:06, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

There are two big categories of babies: ageable babies (which include tadpoles, as well as small sulfur cubes which use the Age tag like other ageables in addition to the size tag), and non-ageable babies which include baby zombies, baby piglins etc; these are esplicitly referred to as babies in their data (IsBaby:1). Small slimes predate baby mobs and were never referred to as babies, small armor stands are just small armor stands, small salmon are just slightly smaller salmon. --Capopanzo (talk | contribs) 10:07, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

I think the criteria is pretty much what is listed in the Spawning section. Either it has an Age tag that is negative, or it has an isBaby tag that is true. Slimes and magma cubes don't have either of those tags. Salmon have a type tag that can be either small, medium, or large. Armor stands have a Small tag that can be true or false. Rampage455 (talk) 10:12, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

Small Sulfur cubes don't have a unique texture, and are coded differnetly from babies.

Same as above(though it's still in debate whether they're baby-like).

It's an armor stand.

Same reason as Sulfur cube.

That's why they're in the baby-like catergory now.

Monster babies behave differently from animal babies. CrockCraftMC (talk) 20:28, 11 May 2026 (UTC)

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Sightnado ^{t | c} 02:46, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

I agree with this being a problem but I'm not quite sure how to handle it since presently we split babies by animal/monster not ageable/non-ageable.

The ageable babies are all baby animals, the baby hoglin, and the baby villager, along with the tadpole and small sulfur cube, while the non-ageable babies are all of the monsters exceot the hoglin. Since hoglins are considered animals and monsters, maybe they could be moved to animals?

I definitely agree that we shouldn't be using the gallery the way we do currently, it might also be beneficial to rearrange the list of baby mobs into a table with group (animal/monster/other/baby-like), spawning (breeding/other/unobtainable), aging (ageable/non-ageable), etc, but I'm not sure how that would work while also preserving it feeling like a list still. 👁 Image
FireDragons52 17:14, 22 June 2026 (UTC)

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 Resolved by FireDragons52; will mark this as such. ‑‑MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 01:38, 23 June 2026 (UTC)