Talk:The Copper Age

Due to BE 1.21.100's bedrock-samples preview branch (on GitHub - here) code not including the new copper tools, weapons, chest and golem, I believe that 1.21.110 (Mojang has to do something about their update numbers for BE – my guess is that they're waiting for JE 1.21.8, 1.21.9, & 1.22 to go by) will be the release, due to looking at the Chase the Skies patterning. The same thing happened, where nothing but the sound files would show up in the bedrock-samples GitHub. 1.21.100 will be an update for bug fixes, Java parity, and adding copper things as experimental features, if I am correct – not saying that I am, of course, but I thought it would be helpful. This happened last drop (see Talk:Chase the Skies, section two, by MinecraftBedrockPlayer7), with multiple users agreeing. It may be JE 1.21.8, but it may not. I only know BE update patterns. 👁 Image
PhoenixAsh89 (talk) (contribs) 19:30, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

The versioning of Minecraft as of late has been rather strange and completely disregards the idea of semantic versioning (this would be releasing as 1.27 if drops actually incremented the major version number like the far smaller Frostburn Update did back in 2016). I agree that 1.21.110 and 1.21.8 are most likely the versions it will release as based on previous update patterns. Sightnado (talk) 20:35, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

It's just some samples, you know. The devs might wait a while before updating the samples or adding new samples related to the new experimental features. The experimental features were just added, afterall. Also, I think some of the staff might still be on break. Also also, they're probably anouncing these new game drop features super early so that they can build more hype and get more player feedback sooner. Especially the feedback. Since adding new armor and tools is a big deal. We might be waiting a while for the next drop. Or maybe they'll try to get it out sooner to help keep players hyped. -- Simanelix ^(T|C) 03:47, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

As of now, the Bedrock Edition 1.21.100 is the version with the fall drop related features, locked behind the experimental toggle. I suggest adding that version to the article with the "experimental" tag, e.g. "Bedrock Edition 1.21.100 (experimental)". We can change the version later when it's definitively confirmed by Mojang. Outrowed (talk) 07:20, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Will there be new hostile mobs in this update? Zachaybarb (talk) 15:11, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

This wiki is not a place to ask those kinds of questions. If you wanna contact that developers, go to https://minecraft.net. -- Simanelix ^(T|C) 00:33, 3 July 2025 (UTC)

Simanelix is right; this wiki is only for informative articles and questions (or for a question for the style guide… or how to use the wiki) NOT game questions about speculation or updates that you want. And Jen’s official Minecraft Wiki account is flooded with update “recommendations”. Just keep the wiki the way it’s supposed to be. Thank you for your cooperation. Steve101 (talk) 19:03, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

I don't know, but let's wait and see! Griff294 (talk) 20:12, 29 July 2025 (UTC)

This update seems to heavily focus on inventory mechanics / management. In fact, last fall's drop also focused on inventory mechanics (by adding bundles). There might even be a pattern to the games drops. But that is just me speculating. But if I were to guess, the Winter Drop will add a new hostile mob and either and a new biome or update a biome vote biome. -- Simanelix ^(T|C) 20:30, 29 July 2025 (UTC)

Hi i edited it on the copper golem spawn egg to say "Spawns copper golem. But no chest" 38.65.231.0 23:52, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

I reverted your edit because no other spawn eggs are like this. the spawn egg doesn't specifically say "Spawn Copper Golem and Copper Chest," it says "Spawn Copper Golem." 👁 Image
PhoenixAsh89 (talk) (contribs) 23:54, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

you must had read it wrong it said "spawns copper golems. but no chest" 38.65.231.0 00:04, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

I read it perfectly fine. I am just trying to clarify the reasoning behind my revert of your edit. 👁 Image
PhoenixAsh89 (talk) (contribs) 01:51, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

Oh, I understand. Spawn Egg should definitely say something along the lines of "Spawns the mob on its own, without any extra things that usually come with the mob." Examples:

• In Java Edition, spawning a wandering trader does not spawn in any trader llamas. And in Java and Bedrock editions, spawning a trader llama does not spawn in a wandering trader.
• Spawning a bee does not create/require a bee nest or beehive.
• Spawning a villager does not create/require beds or job sites.
• Spawning a breeze does not create/require a trial spawner.
• Spawning a creaking does not create/require a creaking heart.
• Spawning a copper golem does not create/require a copper chest.

-- Simanelix ^(T|C) 02:43, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

That would probably be a better version of the edit by 38.65.231.0. 👁 Image
PhoenixAsh89 (talk) (contribs) 02:45, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

thank you i been off the wiki a bit so i did't see the reply's 38.65.231.0 14:23, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

Game pictures are allowed in the infobox, however key art is not allowed in the infobox per MCW:MSU. The game images for each version are added when the update is released. BDJP ^(t|c) 06:22, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

Someone mentioned in revision 3053827 that new features might be announced at Minecraft Live. We don't know if new features will be anounced, but I'm pretty sure there is a policy that says any upcoming game drop or update must be covered at Minecraft Live. Meaning they will talk about Fall Drop 2025. Though there are no guarantees on what might be announced. If they really wanted to be cheesy, Mojang could just cover already added content and spend the whole show talking about game design and bug fixes.

And the show now focuses more on the Minecraft franchise as a whole, and with the upcoming Netflix series and potentially another upcoming spinoff, there might not as much time to talk about Minecraft as you would expect. -- Simanelix ^(T|C) 17:38, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

They'll probably announce the Winter Drop then and maybe the release date of the Fall Drop, just one week after Minecraft LIVE without new features, like with the previous Minecraft LIVE. MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) 👁 Image
17:48, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

the second image is File:Fall Drop 2025 player-made workshop.png. Don't worry it's just a second image, i'm NOT replacing the masterpiece made by MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 51.159.195.205 07:29, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

Sure. It does do a good job at demonstrating what the golems do. -- Simanelix ^(T|C) 03:12, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

Will a snapshot of the fall update in Java Version be released? Zachaybarb (talk) 18:50, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

Definitely. However, most devs at the Mojang office in Sweden (where Java is being developed) either are on vacation currently, or have been for the last few weeks (it's not quite clear). | violine1101 ^(talk) 18:52, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

I think that part of the reason is the Java devs are also working on vibrant visuals. Minermatt122514 (talk) 20:28, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

Good point. This would mean that they haven't really gotten any snapshots ready, since they're probably busy figuring out how they're even going to do a lot of the work. -- Simanelix ^(T|C) 20:53, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

I think it is this: Java Edition 25w31a Griff294 (talk) 19:59, 29 July 2025 (UTC)

Of course there are snapshots planned based on official news.

Edit: they are released. Amirhosseinta (talk) 12:29, 11 August 2025 (UTC)

I’m new so I don’t know when a topic should be closed but why was the above closed? KARATEBROHAM (talk) 17:04, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

Nixinova said that it was invalid usage of a talk page, and it is. Their signature and topic closire reason are below the first sentence in the green text area. 👁 Image
PhoenixAsh89 (talk) (contribs) 17:06, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining KARATEBROHAM (talk) 17:07, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

Well I think a better way of describing it is it is speculation and therefore unproductive. -- Simanelix ^(T|C) 23:31, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

Oh ok KARATEBROHAM (talk) 13:54, 1 August 2025 (UTC)

I don't know. If you ask me, the new textures are much less distinct from eachother. -- Simanelix ^(T|C) 04:40, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

This is the reason given by Mojang. We don't really have any business in second guessing that. GIM Dianliang233 (talk) 04:42, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

This can be confirmed by color blind people who have actually stated that they now have trouble with knowing the difference form different dyes. KARATEBROHAM (talk) 13:14, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

I saw that some people (including @Nesekf) don't agree about the infobox images. There are currently two images (this and this), both showing aspects from the next game drop for each edition. I personally think both should be used in the infobox, we did the same for Chase the Skies. A difference is that Vibrant Visuals hasn't been added in this update, so it's not a necessary feature of the infobox image, but I think that from now on all update pages should have two images, one for each edition, at least until Java has Vibrant Visuals too. This is because Vibrant Visuals is the default graphics mode on most Bedrock devices and the highest graphics mode, and shouldn't images on the wiki have the highest graphics mode? Mojang Studios also uses Vibrant Visuals in update banners, so I don't see why not here. If it's weird to have the infobox image the same as the mainpage banner, I could also make another one of course.

And I don't see "we should use the Java image because it's Java" as a valid argument. MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) 👁 Image
13:39, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

Keep in mind that I will make a new image for the mainpage banner as soon as the next Bedrock Preview has released with the new copper features, in the same style as the previous banner. MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) 👁 Image
13:41, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

Should we not be using Java Edition for the banners? I'm pretty sure the only reason the current banner is a Bedrock Edition banner is because no Java Edition development versions for the drop existed yet. Sightnado ( talk | contribs ) 16:13, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

I dont see how it matters which edition is used for the images 👁 Image
amethyst_hhh👁 Image
16:16, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

Java tends to be significantly easier to take calculated screenshots in since we have the /tick command on Java Sightnado ( talk | contribs ) 16:22, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

Oh, well just because its easier doesn't mean its the only option. If someone can make one in Bedrock without that command, then they should go for it 👁 Image
amethyst_hhh👁 Image
16:25, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

Actually there are snapshot for Java edition covering third drop of 2025 features.🧐 Amirhosseinta (talk) 17:57, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

I don’t like bedrock much😇, but i think that a good idea, but while I was exploring page history I saw your image got removed for like hundred times and then added again which means there are lots of oppositions with this image and I am still saying I think it’s a good idea having that BE image in drop page but not info box; I also added both your dark and light version of them to gallery as it was removed for no reason 😐. also don’t compare it with chase the skies game drop as it was the first release of vibrant visuals addition. Amirhosseinta (talk) 17:55, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

All people that removed it were IP users without a good explanation, and Nesekf who didn't reply here. The reason why they're not in the gallery is because they are in fact unofficial screenshots, and the gallery, as part of the article content, should only include official screenshots (like patch notes banners). We use custom images for the mainpage and infobox, I don't really support the latter though, we should use the official release artwork instead IMO. But if we use custom images, I think we should always have one for Java and one for Bedrock, just because it looks different with the Vibrant Visuals. It's not because Vibrant Visuals is an update feature, it's because some features in the third drop have specific features only for Vibrant Visuals, such as the green lights and the copper golem eyes emitting light, which should really be shown in the infobox. If you look at it from this point, it would even be pointless to have a separate Java image because it has the same features minus some. But I can see why people want one without VV too, so I wont discuss that. MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) 👁 Image
19:05, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

Yes, i agree.👍 Amirhosseinta (talk) 09:52, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

I don't think one of the images should be removed before we have a consensus. For now, I suggest to keep both of them and add a comment that they shouldn't be changed without consensus here, like we did with the mainpage icons. MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) 👁 Image
19:58, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

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amethyst_hhh👁 Image
19:59, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

@Amirhosseinta I think your first image with the trial chamber looked much better than the one you've uploaded now, this new one feels more like an image used to simply display all additions instead of having them put in a nice environment like that trial chamber (love the idea). MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) 👁 Image
20:01, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

yes, actually my goal was to show all additions but if you think Trial chamber theme is better so next time I update I'll use trial chamber theme. Amirhosseinta (talk) 09:49, 10 August 2025 (UTC)

why i cant put third game drop of 2025 in placeholders section its officialy used by mojang but it just kept getting removed, why? Amirhosseinta (talk) 13:54, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/third-game-drop-2025-name-announce#:~:text=Fire%20up%20the%20furnace%20for,*drumroll*%20The%20Copper%20Age! this link is one of official proves Amirhosseinta (talk) 14:00, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

They also referred to it as the third drop of 2025 in https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-25w33a. I don't think they did this for the 1st or 2nd though. 👁 Image
NmF (talk) 14:44, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

Because it's not a name. Names are inherently proper nouns, which "the third drop of 2025" is not. Sightnado ( talk / contribs ) 22:29, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

No I don’t think, but even if it’s not a name it’s a placeholder officially used by Mojang. Amirhosseinta (talk) 07:22, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Also drop 3 2025 is the same, it don’t have any proper noun, but it’s not getting removed Amirhosseinta (talk) 07:27, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Drop 3 2025 was the game of the in-game experiment, which can't be anything else then a name. Drop 3 2025 is also not grammatically correct in sentence case without being a name. MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) 👁 Image
07:57, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

so what's the differences, third game drop of 2025 is also used in minecraft.net, youtube videos of minecraft channel. Amirhosseinta (talk) 09:31, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

The list of placeholder names only lists full names, not just how they refer to it. MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) 👁 Image
07:56, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

"Our third game drop of 2025" is a description, not a name. Just like how "the third person in line" is a description of a person, not their name. 131.93.106.148 09:08, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

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 Agree Amirhosseinta (talk) 09:31, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

This page is a high-traffic page. I request semi-protection for a week. --Whydeletemyaccs - see my talk page here! 19:30, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

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 Weak support 👁 Image
amethyst_hhh👁 Image
19:32, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

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 Disagree Amirhosseinta (talk) 07:51, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

This is probably the best official alternative we have that isn't biased to the Northern Hemisphere. "Third Drop 2025" already started an edit war over whether to include it as a placeholder name or not. Zenphia (talk) 17:15, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Forum:Placeholder names for game drops, I think it's too early to revive this "discussion". MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) 👁 Image
17:17, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Not really. We could revive it anytime. Since the discussion never really came to a resolution. And it is a discussion, obviously. It's a messy one though. Especially if you look at MY comments in particular. I truly am the mess master. -- Simanelix ^(T|C) 04:30, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

Exactly my point from that forum, we shouldn't be making things up when Mojang has given us an entirely acceptable title format to use. I think the alternative that was decided upon in that forum has caused more harm than good, as it has confused people into thinking our title was at any point official when it was not. 👁 Image
Sightnado ( talk / contribs ) 01:45, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

Neat signautre, @Sightnado. -- Simanelix ^(T|C) 04:29, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

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 Agree 37.162.45.26 12:42, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

The void preset being added to bedrock edition should be added this page. It technically came out before the rest of the feutures but Dennis and Lava Chicken came out a different time from chase the skies yet they were added to that page. CrockCraftMC (talk) 15:42, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

No, that feature is entirely unrelated to any drop at all and has no relation to the contents of any drop. 👁 align=top
Sightnado ( talk / contribs ) 23:07, 3 September 2025 (UTC)

So was lava chicken. CrockCraftMC (talk) 14:53, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, I also disagree with putting those things on the drop page. But at least that has the decency to be thrown in as part of a bug-fix patch and not an unrelated minor update. 👁 align=top
Sightnado ( talk / contribs ) 19:30, 4 September 2025 (UTC)

it was added in 1.21.100, which is not the release of The Copper Age drop despite adding some experimental features for it, but remember, it's just an experiment. 2604:2DC0:200:26D0:0:0:0:0 09:15, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Yeah but it's just weird to see it on it's own in the navigation page. CrockCraftMC (talk) 13:01, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

Is there any source stating that this character creator item was "given out to influencers who promoted the Copper Collection challenge"? - Zamburger (talk) 19:14, 26 September 2025 (UTC)

@Daliusite, pinging you as you're the one who added it to the table earlier this week (Special:Diff/3161602). - Zamburger (talk) 07:47, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

Based it off this short: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0Ell5xtdBw0

Unsure if there's a better source for this or if anyone else even talked about it Daliusite (talk) 11:21, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, I've added that video as a reference in the table. :) - Zamburger (talk) 11:48, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

I found the same short whilst doomscrolling, and I think there's a very low chance they were lying because why would they? However, I think it's best if we find a more reliable source. --MinecraftExp123^{(talk|contribs)} 11:49, 27 September 2025 (UTC)

One of the head images is weird. It shows a completely different image if click on it. SUSSPENCER (talk) 00:29, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

It is due to cache and the image being changed. Wait a while and it will fix itself. 👁 Image
NmF (talk) 00:36, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

It's actually been going on since yesterday. SUSSPENCER (talk) 00:38, 29 September 2025 (UTC)

There should be a additions table for the Copper Age drop, like the other updates. ~2026-RavagerPhantomRedstone13927 (talk) 01:15, 15 June 2026 (UTC)