Shouldn't "Mushroom" just redirect to "Mushrooms"? I vote for yes! βPreceding unsigned comment was added by Nerman8r(Talk|Contribs) 07:01, 14 November 2011. Please sign your posts with ~~~~
π Image comment The problem with that is Mushroom might refer to other related things, so it's best to link to the disambig page to avoid possible confusion or wrong linking. - Asterick601:13, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
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The article lacks any definitive list of the biomes mushrooms will generate and the exact list of blocks they can generated on. This kind of list is typically given in the Occurrence section
User-100128569 (talk) 14:23, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Recently, an IP editor wants to put {{split}} on this page, but apparently the discussion would be pointless according to edit summaries. However, as seen in this (now closed) forum topic, which is now used for MCW:P/DIG, the opinion on splitting this page is actually quite mixed. Therefore, I'm now actually starting a proposal to split this page, though I myself π Image Oppose as I think the mushrooms are too similar, except for the niche feature that only brown mushrooms emit light. --MinecraftExp123(talk|contribs)08:40, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
π Image Oppose this shouldn't even be discussed, if this ever gets split then other similar pages have to be split too which we already know were already decided not to be split. That ip editor's contributions is mostly vandalizing, they didn't even bother to support the split in this talk page. I propose to close this discussion. π Image QwertyLilley [ talk ] 14:57, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
Additionally, let the record how that while the edit to add the split template was reverted three times without even letting a discussion happen. It's much better to let the discussion happen than to just revert it and assume that no one would support the split. None of us can speak for the whole wiki; none of us can say that no one would support it. -~-Nerdyguy2000TalkEdits15:46, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
With the new update, both types of mushrooms are increasingly becoming more unique from one another, with properties, drops and natural generation and uses being found in one but not the other. This page will evidently reach a point in the future where both items are completely distinct like the poppy and the dandelion.
For your benefit, here are the list of differences between the two:
My case is that this page will inevitably be split because of the more and more updates given to each item individually and each mushroom already has its own identity, which coincides with the DIG project. π Image Ayaan16:33, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
π Image Strong oppose for the same reasons as why I'm against splitting saplings and leaves for example: there is nothing wrong with this page. People seem to only want to split things because it's a different block but I think whenever you can put multiple similar blocks on one page, you should do that. Sure, there are a few (though not too many) differences, but it's all pretty well organized and definetely not too hard for readers. Also, when a reader wants to find information about mushrooms, they usually don't want to search information for one specific mushroom, since its (crafting and decoration) usage is mostly the same. Instead, readers want to find information on both mushrooms, and putting both on one page makes that perfectly fit. I just see no benefits from splitting these. MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) π Image 20:30, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
I'm not sure to be honest. Is it a good idea to keep and have there been benefits to the Nether Fungus article or has it simply become a burden to update the infomation twice? I would say I'm π Image Neutral in keeping/deleting it. π Image Ayaan23:26, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
π Image Strong oppose. A dam breaking loose will have a cascading domino effect. Next would be mushroom blocks, leaves, wood, dyes, corals, and so on.
I will quote MinecraftBedrockPlayer7's response again, as the user has already said what I would want to say in both instances:
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Sure, there are a few (though not too many) differences, but it's all pretty well organized and definetely not too hard for readers. Also, when a reader wants to find information about mushrooms, they usually don't want to search information for one specific mushroom, since its (crafting and decoration) usage is mostly the same. Instead, readers want to find information on both mushrooms, and putting both on one page makes that perfectly fit. I just see no benefits from splitting these.
The difference between mushrooms and your other examples is that mushrooms in particular have quite a few differences between the relevant blocks; all of your examples' variants really are effectively just palette swaps of each other. π align=top Sightnado ( talk / contribs ) 01:59, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
There are not enough differences between the two as it is currently even within the current update. As the editor I quoted has said.
This is just splitting for the sake of splitting things after people ran out of things to split.
This doesn't work as how do you know what readers want? What do you mean there aren't enough differences? Is there a definitive baseline? Why do some pages who have less distinct differences have a page but not this? Why doesn't this justify future proofing? Do you want to wait for the page to accumulate into a whole mess or do it before we decide its not as beneficial than actually splitting?
We canβt predict when Mojang will do a mushroom update. If we need to do a split, then we can typically rely on the snapshot phase of an update to do the split. Worry about it when it matters. Mushrooms donβt have an update right now. Not much has changed in the past 5 months. This is just completely unnecessary. Delvin4519 (talk) 18:28, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
There just arenβt enough differences between the 2 variants to do the split as it is today. If it ainβt broke, donβt fix it. We donβt need to open an unnecessary can of worms if we can avoid scope creep. See what is happening in the sapling split right now. Delvin4519 (talk) 18:35, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
"A dam breaking loose will have a cascading domino effect. Next would be mushroom blocks, leaves, wood, dyes, corals, and so on."
This is a slippery slope argument/fallacy. Just because we consider to split this article doesn't mean that we'd also split all other articles. In the future, please focus on the issue at hand (in this case: should we split this specific page?) instead of derailing the discussion. | violine1101(talk)20:05, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
To elaborate: I think only the fact that fermented spider eyes cannot be crafted with red mushrooms are more than enough justification to split the two articles. The new zombie horse drops gives even more reason. | violine1101(talk)20:08, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
not actually deleting, but converting to set index or disambig without any actual content. While I still don't strongly support the past mushroom split, I'm not opposing it either anymore since the recent updates, especially shelf mushrooms. This page is an extremely weird situation because all info can also be on the respective mushroom pages without much harm, so it is entirely duplicate and that can be very confusing to readers and editors. Either one page about all mushrooms, or 3 about each individual one, not both. One thing to add is that the split hasn't been done properly and a lot of info is still missing or incorrectly copied to the mushroom pages, so that needs to be fixed first. MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) π Image 15:58, 1 June 2026 (UTC)
I would π Image Support removal of all overview pages of mushroom and fungal related blocks and just only have split pages, or alternatively, merge them all back into merged pages. The current split + overview page mess of mushroom and fungal related blocks is mostly a sore duplicated workload nightmare of just 2 blocks, meaning we have to have 3 copies of the same information of 2 blocks (2 split pages + 1 overview page). We can live without overview pages if it's just 2 blocks, or just merge them all back into merged pages and forgo the split pages altogether. Either one other than the current status quo would do. Delvin4519 (talk) 02:32, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
π Image Oppose I don't see why, people can very well choose whether they prefer to read a specific page or in general. This page already exists, it doesn't bother anyone. I don't understand how there's any problem with having duplicate information. Aloi4 (talk) 15:10, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
They can choose, yes, but they don't. Why click a link to a second page when you're already on a page that seemingly contains all information except it doesn't and it goes near misinformation. There is a reason why we shouldn't duplicate information, it is only confusing, harder to maintain and navigate, while there really is no problem in removing this page, it serves no benefit over the split ones. MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) π Image 15:40, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
Yes, there are advantages. Think of two audiences. Audience A wants to know generally about mushrooms. Separate pages aren't very user-friendly; you'd have to look at each one individually, and you'd still need something to help you understand what all the pages are about. Now, audience B wants to know something about a specific mushroom. This mixed-up page is more confusing because it's full of information that people in audience B simply don't want and have to filter. Each page has its specific audience. In a very radical way, we could use similar arguments to remove the page block, since the information is already on the individual pages, which obviously doesn't make sense. Aloi4 (talk) 19:50, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
What audience wants to "generally know about mushrooms"? If that were a significant one, we wouldn't have split this page (see above discussion). There are no other pages with a situation like this, either they are fully split or fully merged, and block just isn't comparable in the slightest. In the current state of how information is distributed on the wiki, there is no place for the "mushroom exception" where we just duplicate info without proper reasons related to the blocks themselves. So if you'd want that changed, make a proposal that affects other pages as well, but it currently isn't a reason to keep this page. MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) π Image 20:01, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
I think that's a different situation, also applies to Slab, Stairs, etc. Doors are all variant of the same thing: a door. But mushrooms aren't such an easy concept, they are plants that share some similarities, but there are also fundamental differences (especially shelf mushrooms). Nether fungi not being on this same page, even though they are more similar to classic mushrooms than shelf mushrooms, proves that this is a vague concept and would only cause confusion. MinecraftBedrockPlayer7 (talk) (contribs) π Image 09:24, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
But you're right about one thing: having more pages makes editing more difficult. However, given that the pages already exist, minor edits and changes between versions aren't that complex. Aloi4 (talk) 19:52, 26 June 2026 (UTC)